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Millions of Poor Are Left Uncovered by Health Law

[quote][b]Duke Briscoe[/b] - Also, I'm not sure that 180 million a year is a truly huge tax increase.[/quote]

Let's see...7.2 million Georgians over the age of 18, so that comes to.. 24.70 bucks per person per year. Round a bit and say two bucks a month. Not crippling, I'd think, compared to the benefit.

posted @ Saturday, October 5, 2013 - 02:06

The Gov Shutdown

[quote][b]Crusader[/b] - Yea sure. People standing up to the government are the tyrants and the government are the "liberators". You do realize how stupid that sounds, right?[/quote]

You have a small fraction of the population- the Tea Party- which is trying to impose its views of small government on a country that prefers a somewhat larger one. So yeah, they're trying for a tyranny, justified in their own minds by the belief that they're absolutely right.

posted @ Saturday, October 5, 2013 - 01:17

Today's editorial cartoon

[quote][b]proftom[/b] - The time is for all to put ideology and partisanship aside and find the solution that fits the needs of a society that cares for all but expects all to contribute.[/quote]

The problem is that the core ideology of one side is pretty much explicitly a rejection of the notion that society should attempt to care for all.

posted @ Friday, October 4, 2013 - 23:48

California gives immigrants driver's licenses

[quote][b]Emperor1972[/b] - People that BROKE THE LAW to come here, as a whole, aren't going to suddenly FOLLOW THE LAW and get insurance.

Thinking otherwise shows a true disconnect with reality...[/quote]

You think people who break one law aren't going to follow other laws?

posted @ Friday, October 4, 2013 - 18:46

California gives immigrants driver's licenses

[quote][b]Emperor1972[/b] - People that BROKE THE LAW to come here, as a whole, aren't going to suddenly FOLLOW THE LAW and get insurance.

Thinking otherwise shows a true disconnect with reality...[/quote]

You think people who break one law aren't going to follow other laws?

posted @ Friday, October 4, 2013 - 18:46

California gives immigrants driver's licenses

[quote][b]Emperor1972[/b] - If a person is in the country ILLEGALLY, then it can't be said that they're driving LEGALLY...[/quote]

Sure you can. They may be here against US law, but it's the state of California that's issuing the licenses. So if they run into the feds they're in trouble, but the California highway patrol probably won't care.

Law's only as good as the enforcement, after all.

posted @ Friday, October 4, 2013 - 07:41

Budget, debt unresolved on shutdown's 3rd day

[quote][b]jlscott[/b] - Worked out pretty good for Little Boney. And when the dust settled they still had Louis XVIII.[/quote]

And now they've got perhaps the best healthcare system in the world. Socialized.

Guess you just have to keep getting rid of the aristocrats until you get the job done...

posted @ Friday, October 4, 2013 - 07:20

Budget, debt unresolved on shutdown's 3rd day

@jlscott: You seem to be overlooking the fact that the "squealing moochers" are in fact in your own country. There's no hiding behind a body of water and a good fleet.

posted @ Friday, October 4, 2013 - 06:31

Budget, debt unresolved on shutdown's 3rd day

[quote][b]jlscott[/b] -

Shutdown be cuttin' into federal subsidies for Foodt Stampz soon. Squealing moochers should provide hilarity for all responsible and productive citizens

[/quote]

Even better idea- tell them to eat cake. That worked really well last time.

posted @ Friday, October 4, 2013 - 06:00

Poll: Most Georgians blame Democrats for government shutdown

[quote][b]coda10[/b] - But guess what? I work with people everyday that I didn't hire and I can't fire, because I work in a large organization. But we all work for the same company and we all have the same goal - to make the company successful.[/quote]

Let's assume your co-workers were all trying their hardest to get you fired, because they'd prefer the company without you in it, and are willing to see a certain amount of damage done to the company if that's what it takes.

How would you work with that?

posted @ Thursday, October 3, 2013 - 23:57

Poll: Most Georgians blame Democrats for government shutdown

[quote][b]dbt302[/b] - When are they going to wake up, look in the mirror, and realize they are as much to blame as anyone else up there?[/quote]

Presumably they are already aware of this. On the other hand, as long as they say what they need to say to keep getting reelected, they have no reason to change and every reason to keep doing the same thing.

If all you need to do to stay in office is say "Grrrr, Obama bad!" often enough, you do that, and to hell with the rest.

posted @ Thursday, October 3, 2013 - 23:54

Poll: Most Georgians blame Democrats for government shutdown

[quote][b]Heisenberg[/b] - I like how it says "most" Georgians and then when you read the article it says only 1000 registered voters were polled. That is a tiny fraction of Gerogians not most. You can chalk this up as further proof that "polls" are complete BS used to further the poll takers agenda.[/quote]

http://highered.mcgraw-hill.com/sites/dl/free/0072549076/79745/ch07.pdf

Short version is, as long as the sample size is significantly smaller than the population you're sampling (say, 100 times smaller or less), the accuracy of your polling estimate depends on the size of the sample, not the size of the sample in relation to the size of the population as a whole.

This site'll do the math for you: http://www.surveysystem.com/sscalc.htm

That one everybody gets wrong until their first stat course.

posted @ Thursday, October 3, 2013 - 22:01

Obamacare tax credit eligibility based on poverty guidelines

[quote][b]Fred III[/b] - Now the Reps seem to be same as the Dems in that their primary motivation is their own job security, rather than what's good for America.[/quote]

If everybody was just out doing their own thing to further their own ends, what's the point of having an America in the first place? Just break the thing up into individual sovereign states and let 'em do what they wanted. Then break the states up, probably- most of 'em have internal political divides and scrabble a lot.

posted @ Thursday, October 3, 2013 - 21:50

Georgia senator urges reining in Medicaid, Medicare 'super utilizers'

[quote][b]grove600[/b] - The problem is really in the use of multiple doctors who don't or can't talk to each other. So I can go to my doctor and he orders up a blood test. Next week I can go to another doctor and he will order up another blood test. Repeat till the cows come home. And you can't solve that with rules, as there may be very valid reasons to do something that doesn't "fit" the rule.[/quote]

As you've described it, the problem is lack of coordination. Do you not think that could be solved by having an authority to coordinate the various players? Kind of like having one coach and a game plan rather than just have the folks on the football field figure out how to get the ball toward the end zone on their own.

posted @ Thursday, October 3, 2013 - 21:47

Poll: Most Georgians blame Democrats for government shutdown

To get a bit of perspective- when Louisiana Republicans (who presumably remember Katrina) were polled as to the disaster response (emphasis mine): "Twenty-eight percent said they think former President George W. Bush, who was in office at the time, was more responsible for the poor federal response while 29 percent said Obama, who was still a freshman U.S. Senator when the storm battered the Gulf Coast in 2005, was more responsible. Nearly half of Louisiana Republicans — 44 percent — said they aren't sure who to blame."

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/poll-louisiana-gopers-unsure-if-ka...

So you've got a good chunk of people in the GOP who'd presumably blame Obama for anything that comes up, regardless.

posted @ Thursday, October 3, 2013 - 21:38

Obamacare tax credit eligibility based on poverty guidelines

[quote][b]Okra[/b] - A generational effort to educate.[/quote]

If I read you right, you're making the assumption that anyone, fully apprised of the facts, would choose libertarianism and the only thing preventing it from being widespread is ignorance of it?

posted @ Thursday, October 3, 2013 - 02:25

8 Year Old Defies Code of Conduct “that prohibits students from playing with invisible guns”

Perhaps he could argue it was an invisible taser instead.

The freaky thing is otherwise hypothetically rational adults reacting to a representation of a thing as though it were the thing. Edges toward magical thinking- that the name (or picture, or whatever) of a thing somehow has an actual connection to the thing.

posted @ Wednesday, October 2, 2013 - 23:31

Obamacare tax credit eligibility based on poverty guidelines

[quote][b]Okra[/b] - You're a Marxist? That's fine if you are, but if you just came out and said it you wouldn't have to type so much dancing around it.[/quote]

Not a Marxist, but I do think he raised a few problems that occur with unrestricted capitalism- what happens at the end of it being the big one.

[quote][b]Okra[/b] - The problem with the concept is that I believe no individual, myself included, is entitled to a portion of the life of another individual.[/quote]

Do you not think you've agreed to that by remaining in a state composed of individuals who've chosen to pool a portion of their livelihoods for the collective good?

You consent by remaining in the country, essentially. Social contract, etc.

[quote][b]Okra[/b] - I'm fine with that being done voluntarily, but I am not fine with it being done by force. In a free society it would be done voluntarily by those who wished to participate. I believe strongly in the non-aggression principle.[/quote]

You're missing the major problem with that- free riding. If I skip out on paying for police protection, the difference in my personal benefit is negligible...but then why wouldn't everyone else not pay for the police? And we could go about it piecemeal with private security...but then the overall security is less efficient because you're totally losing economy of scale.

On a societal level, you're completely toast as soon as you run into another society which doesn't subscribe to the principle of total voluntary participation. They can have a military where someone is bound to service for the duration of the war...you don't have that option. This probably explains the general lack of purely libertarian countries- they lose as soon as they bump up against non-libertarian ones.

[quote][b]Okra[/b] - These obligations and benefits should be voluntary. Force should not be initiated to put them into motion[/quote]

To repeat the above, what keeps people from taking the benefits but not picking up their share of the obligations, then?

posted @ Wednesday, October 2, 2013 - 22:40

Open enrollment starts today for Obamacare; many still confused

[quote][b]Okra[/b] - So you claim to have a right to a portion of another man's life simply by virtue of being born?[/quote]

Let's try a thought experiment- if you saw a baby lying by the side of the road, are you obligated to do something about it?

posted @ Wednesday, October 2, 2013 - 22:19

Green Eggs and Derp

[quote][b]Save our Republic[/b] - He wasn't at a town hall of his constituency. He was in the Democrat led senate......[/quote]

He may have been in the Senate, but trust me- he was speaking to his constituency.

posted @ Wednesday, October 2, 2013 - 22:14

Open enrollment starts today for Obamacare; many still confused

[quote][b]keepitsimple[/b] - Despite your beliefs there are those who are just to effing lazy to work for a living or try to do better in life and live off the system.[/quote]

Of course there are- I've never denied that. On the other hand, do you think being consumed with the fear that someone might get something they didn't "earn" warrants denying care to those who need it and can't afford it?

posted @ Wednesday, October 2, 2013 - 07:03

Green Eggs and Derp

[quote][b]Crusader[/b] - Does this mean we can go into our politicians' homes and conduct exams on them?[/quote]

No need- the fluoride in the drinking water makes them show up on scans from the orbital lasers.

posted @ Tuesday, October 1, 2013 - 23:45

Faulty brain circuit may be to blame for overeating

[quote][b]hack[/b] - Why not call a spade a spade and quit trying to shift the blame away from bad personal choices?? Why not just accept the reality of what a very large % of Americans are?? Fat because of bad choices[/quote]

Because that does absolutely nothing to reduce the rate of obesity.

Curiously enough, saying to people "You should eat healthily and exercise" repeatedly does remarkably little to get them to eat healthily and exercise if they weren't inclined to do so anyhow.

Are you more interested in solving the problem or assigning blame for the problem?

posted @ Tuesday, October 1, 2013 - 23:33

Obama: Shutdown is result of ideological crusade

[quote][b]GroversMill[/b] - The other option involves overthrowing the government with violent tactics.[/quote]

Er...that'd be "attempting to overthrow the government with violent tactics". Remember the last time somebody tried that after getting peeved with the federal government? Rebuilding Atlanta'd be a lot more expensive this go-round.

posted @ Tuesday, October 1, 2013 - 23:02

Athen's Paul Broun Battles Obamacare!

[quote][b]fixit[/b] - You don't get to med school by being a dummy.[/quote]

Best laugh I've had tonight. Thanks.

posted @ Tuesday, October 1, 2013 - 22:40

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