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Classic Center making plans for arena-style events, including ice rink

@davidxto: The last I heard any citizen can make an open records request of any government.

http://law.ga.gov/sites/law.ga.gov/files/imported/vgn/images/portal/cit_...

When doing so you have to be specific as to what it is your looking for. You have to remember these are government employees and they are not going to go out of their way to guess as to what it is you want. There also may be a cost associated with such a request.

posted @ Wednesday, July 24, 2013 - 19:06

Classic Center making plans for arena-style events, including ice rink

I seem to remember commentators on this site complaining about the expansion of the Classic Center when it came up for vote. What was basically said was that it would sit empty most of the time.

Now Mr Cramer presents a "plan" that could fill the void in some of those "empty" dates and you still complain.

The more people that are brought to town the more local businesses can reap from it. Not all, but any business should be welcome business in this economy. It would seem that if there were more business for the locals they would turn around and hire more people to work.

posted @ Wednesday, July 24, 2013 - 18:08

Hundreds gather in Athens at 'Justice for Trayvon' rally

@hack: Well the sad thing is that most people in this country will have forgotten about Trayvon in less than a year.

How many people can tell you who it was that the LA police beat up and what year it happened? What was the name of the man who was drug behind a pickup truck in Texas and what was the outcome of that trial? What was the name of the last murder victim in Athens? Sadly our news media has become all about the story of the moment or trying to create the story of the moment.

I don't think you will be seeing any Trayvon Martin remembrance days in the next few years.

posted @ Saturday, July 20, 2013 - 23:28

Hundreds gather in Athens at 'Justice for Trayvon' rally

So when all these protesters say "We are Trayvon" are they saying that they admit to smoking dope, getting tattoos before the legal age of consent and trying to look gangster?

I just want to know so the next one that crosses my door step for a job wearing one of those shirts I can hire.

posted @ Saturday, July 20, 2013 - 22:58

July 4th fireworks scrapped at a number of bases

Well truth be told these soldiers probably see enough fireworks when they are down range. It's the families who will miss out.

They could however take them to one of the on post ranges and give a live fire demonstration and call it training. Trust me if you've never seen one of these in person there just as good as any fireworks.

posted @ Monday, July 1, 2013 - 09:55

Wal-Mart ends relationship with Paula Deen

I'm beating that more Wal-Mart customers have used the N word than Paula Dean.

Question? If this case goes to trial and Paula Dean prevails (that means win) what does she get? A whole lot of nothing. Now you know why so many lawsuits are settled before they get to this point. Although the plaintiffs offer to settle for $1 million seems small potatoes now to what she has lost and will loose in income.

The fact that she used the N word all those years ago has nothing to do with this case. The plaintiff claims she was subjected to a hostile environment by Deans brother who is the main defendant in the case. Basically Dean has testified under oath (deposition) that she has not done what plaintiff claims however all the media can do is focus that she once used the N word back when the word was used more commonly.

What is the cutoff period for how far back we look into ones life and not think that the person may have changed their ways. I'm certainly not the same person I was 20 years ago

posted @ Wednesday, June 26, 2013 - 23:03

Supreme Court strikes down federal marriage provision

I think what a lot of posters are missing here is the fact that this ruling only holds status in those states that have legalized Same sex marriage. Georgia is not one of those states. The Supreme Court did not say this applies to all gay couples, nor did they rule on whether same sex marriage is legal in all 50 states.

Theres still a long road ahead before all couples can benefit from this decision. As to the 4 Justices who dissented, we have to remember that this court is supposed to interpret the law and not the person. Read the opinion, before you judge (no pun intended) the justices.

posted @ Wednesday, June 26, 2013 - 13:40

Selig: A week away from a vote, hoping to allay community concerns

Not sure how to feel on this one since I don't have a dog in the hunt so to speak. Looking at the artist renderings all I can say is that this will change the face of downtown Athens forever.

posted @ Tuesday, June 25, 2013 - 07:05

Paula Deen documents offer details about lawsuit, racist assertions

The sad thing about all of this is that the only true winners out of this whole affair will be the attorneys.

I don't know much about the woman or her show, but releasing a deposition to the media is designed to do one thing and one thing only. Get the other side to settle. You have to remember she was under oath and to admit that she hadn't used the word would have been suicide on her part. Since she is a celebrity to some, the media for the most part is only going to focus on the juicy points and not the stuff the ABH has posted here. I give kudos to the ABH for going beyond the sound bite.

I've been called a cracker before. I didn't fall apart over it, I just looked back at the person and said please make me a saltine cracker, because I hate being a dry cracker. Shut her right up and made all the others around bust up laughing. I think most of us would be lying if we said we never thought it, used it or wanted to use it at some point and time. That goes for both blacks and whites. If you want to end the use of the word then all parties have to make the word taboo.

posted @ Sunday, June 23, 2013 - 16:27

Bride, 4 others die in limo fire on Calif. bridge

Doors in limousines are designed the same way as they are in any other car. You can lock out those from the outside, but would still be able to open the doors from the inside.

The problem with limos is that they carry no fire extinguisher in the back passenger compartment and the design of them (Most not all) only have the back two doors for an exit.

When the fire started it more than likely was close to the doors and prevented most of them from going out that way. The victims were all found near the divider window between the passenger compartment and the drivers area.

It would have helped if the driver carried a tool to break the glass, but then again these types of things don't happen every day. As it is none of the side windows in a limo are equipped to be used as an emergency exit.

posted @ Monday, May 6, 2013 - 12:07

Multiple fatalities in Oconee County wreck

Could be the AJC has a bigger staff which allows them to employee somebody 24/7 to write the story. ABH may not have a web guy on duty at night.

posted @ Tuesday, February 26, 2013 - 10:42

Maserati driver in Vegas shooting-crash was rapper

If this was a aspiring rapper, then this means to me he hasn't made it big yet. So how does he afford a Maserati? Those things aren't cheap or so I hear.
http://www.motortrend.com/new_cars/07/maserati/pricing/

posted @ Friday, February 22, 2013 - 14:23

Tractor trailer impacts guardrail, tips over on Oconee ramp

This indeed is NOT a tractor trailer. Not all tractors have 10 wheels and not all trailers carry 8. Inner-city tractor trailers can carry six and four (tractor/ trailer). This being a Penske truck it could have been rented and more than likely was either A) overloaded or B) The load shifted depending on the road conditions. The load shifting could have been caused by speed or that the load was not well secured within the trailer.

The State Patrol will generally do the investigation along with the Sheriffs department to determine exact cause, but I'm guessing driver error.

Although on second look at the pictures it appears this was a six wheel box truck although a very odd looking combination one. I'm changing my thoughts to overloaded and load shifted due to excessive speed.

posted @ Wednesday, February 20, 2013 - 17:35

Classic Center puts on big show for unveiling of new atrium

@geronimo509: I think the numbers speak for themselves. You have to remember if I put a tip in somebodys hand, that person then spends that money somewhere and it's most likely in Athens. Be it at Wal Mart or 8e's on a beer. Most hotel rooms are between $89 to $129 a night. A two or three night stay will generate a 3 to $500 revenue stream with meals thrown in. I've never heard of a six figure economic impact for one conventioneer.

Also as for the SPLOST, YES you can consider that many as coming from outside the county. You've got some 30,000 of em on campus at UGA everyday. They don't pay any other type of direct tax otherwise to the county. When their parents show up more money.

posted @ Sunday, February 17, 2013 - 16:33

Classic Center puts on big show for unveiling of new atrium

@geronimo509: And thats just the point of the expansion. Many restaurants and small businesses depend upon that convention crowd in Athens. Athens cannot survive on 6 home games a year.

While you don't seem to keen on Paul, you have to remember he answers to a board and it's director. Yes Paul and his staff manage the CC, but Athens Convention and Visitors Bureau helps to fill it.

The economic impact of this expansion started with the designers, the construction crew, the new staff that will work in the CC. The hotels and restaurants that will benefit shortly. So I think it's more than just Pauls ego that will benefit from all of this.

If Dexter were a smart business person he would be talking to the CC folks about how he can advertise his business to those that are there, just like any other business should be doing.

posted @ Sunday, February 17, 2013 - 13:33

Classic Center puts on big show for unveiling of new atrium

@Tripollo: Soon to have a hotel that will block part of it. I think 2015.

posted @ Sunday, February 17, 2013 - 11:07

Classic Center puts on big show for unveiling of new atrium

@geronimo509: Despite your negative feelings (your entitled to them however) I for one think Athens should be proud of the new(er) venue.

I traveled from out of town. Ate at Weaver D's and then went to the reception. Thats the whole purpose of this facility. If they can bring me into town just for an opening just think what kind of revenue they will bring in with the conventions.

I think you and most others will change your tune soon.

posted @ Sunday, February 17, 2013 - 00:21

Public to get glimpse at Athens Classic Center expansion Saturday

Just got back (from the public opening) and I have to say Very Impressive Athens. Very Impressive.

posted @ Saturday, February 16, 2013 - 18:57

Athens man on bond for 23 burglaries cuts off ankle monitor a second time

I'm kind of curious, but since I've never been arrested don't you only have to put 10% of your bail down to get out? Then if you violate the terms of the bail does the bail bonding company loose the $10,000?

It seems like after he cut the ankle monitor the first time most bail bond companies would think he was to high a risk to write the bond. If ACC is not collecting the bonds (from the bonding company)when the repeat offenders violate the bond, then why not? If you hit these bonding companies in the pocket they would be a little more careful about who they wrote bonds for and then maybe more of these guys WOULD stay behind bars.

posted @ Wednesday, February 6, 2013 - 19:11

Homeless evicted from under Athens bridge where arson fire destroyed camp

@grove600: Much like us "normal" people?

Could be. However if you do drugs or alcohol long enough and don't have a support network around you then you could end up homeless.

Many people with mental illness can or have qualified for some type of government assistance (Generally SS if anything) to cover the costs of meds and being disabled. Local LEO's will tell you that often when brought into the jails they get treated and streeted and then the cycle starts all over again.

@10-8 I don't give money directly to the homeless because of drugs and alcohol. If you came to me and said you needed money for battery's or whatever else, if I had time and money I would much rather go to the store and buy it for you.

posted @ Wednesday, February 6, 2013 - 15:42

Homeless evicted from under Athens bridge where arson fire destroyed camp

The vast majority of homelessness started in the mid 80's when most mental hospitals were shut down. It used to be that those needing mental health were warehoused there. It was deemed that it would be cheaper and more socially acceptable (for the patient) to live amongst the community.

The problem however is that unless the mentally ill are placed in group homes where their medications are taken daily they fall off the wagon. There is nothing that mandates the patient stay in the group home environment. They then turn to drugs and alcohol and other vices. Ask any police officer and they will tell you that most of the homeless they encounter have mental health issues.

WE are a nation that spends billions on fighting a drug war, yet spend so little on drug addiction. I wont give money to a homeless person, but if I happen to have a little extra food I will share my meal.

posted @ Wednesday, February 6, 2013 - 10:28

Georgia's overdue federal loans have employers footing the bill

@grove600: I guess she didn't read the part about how an employer factors that cost into what the EMPLOYEE makes. If people only understood that all cost of doing business are factored into either what one makes or what one pays then we would really take a closer look at what government takes from us.

posted @ Monday, February 4, 2013 - 16:49

Georgia's overdue federal loans have employers footing the bill

This issue was a two headed snake from the get go. I don't think you lay the blame squarely on the Republicans as you could the Democrats. Back when the recession was at full tilt, extending unemployment beyond it's normal standard of 26 weeks was a way of stimulating the economy. You know those guys in Washington saying that giving Mr. or Mrs. unemployed another 25 weeks would help them buy grocery's, etc, etc, etc could only help the economy.

What those wizened politicians didn't tell the public was that somebody would have to pay it back at some point. As a business owner I have to factor in this cost as to what I pay you for your services.

Bottom line is if the states had not accepted the money those politicians (In this state Republicans) would have been raked across the coals for not helping the unemployed.

posted @ Monday, February 4, 2013 - 14:47

Rolling Ridge continues to thrive as Athens illegal drug market

Yes and No. Many police departments use the broken window theory when looking to fight high crime areas.

In other words they focus their efforts on a high crime area, doing random road blocks. If the ACCPD were to set these up at different high crime areas the word would get out and thus make customers a little more cautious about coming into these areas.

I didn't mean they should only focus their efforts on this one place. From what I read on line here, this should be a regular task force of the ACCPD, but I guess it is a manpower issue.

posted @ Monday, February 4, 2013 - 00:36

Georgia's overdue federal loans have employers footing the bill

I got notified of this by my payroll processing provider at the first of the year. It seems while those in D.C. sing the praises of keeping the unemployed on the public dole for longer than usual, there is also a hidden cost to all of this at some point.

As we in business for ourselves say. Nothing is for free.

posted @ Monday, February 4, 2013 - 00:20

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