@As I See It: Believe me, I'm not in the business of defending insurance companies, as I've had my share of fights with them over the years.
However, these companies are dropping coverage because they are mandated by the Obamacare law to provide coverage that most current polices do not cover. How many current policies in effect, be they individual or those provided by employers, provide FREE birth control for example. This is just one of many other requirements mandated under this law that most policies do not provide, and in fact many do not need, which is in turn, causing costs to rise, and individuals to lose coverage. It will eventually affect employer based coverage as well, once the business mandate goes into effect.
Your accusation of "historically inadequate coverage over the past decades", is an interesting one. How many people did you hear complaining about their coverage before this law was enacted? Insurance companies provided the coverage their policy holders dictated they cover, at the price they wanted to pay. It seems only reasonable to me, that you should be able to purchase only the coverage you want or need. It's called free market, allowing choice. That, it seems, is now gone.
Like it or not, Insurance companies are a for profit entity. They don't make a profit, they go out of business. Their costs rise, their coverage costs rise. As healthcare costs rise, their costs rise. There is nothing in the Obamacare law that lowers the cost of healthcare. The one thing that might have achieved that was Tort Reform, which was nixed by the Democrats.
I don't know of anything that Republicans pushed for that they actually got, except for the avoidance of socialized medicine, and they had the backing of most of the American people on that one. I say good on them for that.posted @ Friday, November 15, 2013 - 11:50
@As I See It: You are correct, I do not speak for you, nor is that my intent. I do believe, however, that I speak for many.
The simple fact that more people are losing insurance coverage than are gaining it, speaks for itself. Whether that changes in the near, or distant future, is anyone's guess.
Also, whether those who will be helped, offsets those who will be hurt, is also yet to be determined. It is important to note that those who may gain from this, will do so because of those who will lose from it.
People losing their insurance coverage, forcing them into coverage they do not want or need, costing them thousands of more dollars out of pocket, is not what they expected, or more importantly, were told.
It is also yet to be determined just how this added expense to families will reverberate throughout the economy. Don't forget the fact that just because an individual or family may not qualify for a subsidy, that does not make them wealthy. It will be interesting to watch, and sad, I believe.posted @ Friday, November 15, 2013 - 10:03
"Did you know about either of those things?"
Yes, Mr. Grimes I am aware of both of these issues, as I am quite sure many Americans are. Those who are not, are obviously not paying close attention, or are busy focusing on how to retrieve their lost insurance coverage, which they are so generously being "allowed" to keep for one more year.
I am reserving judgment on the issues you mention, until the time I see inspectors conclude that Iran's nuclear program has been dismantled, and what happens if, and when, the U.S. lifts it's economic sanctions against them, which is the obvious reason for their desire to "negotiate":
As to Syria, I don't believe military action was ever seriously considered, and they are still, and will continue to be a terrorist nation. One question I have, is why we are continuing to fight terrorists in Afghanistan, while negotiating with terrorist nations elsewhere.
As to the drop in the deficit, I see this as a result of two things. One, the tax increases both parties agreed to, and the sequestration cuts, one party fought tooth and nail.
Last but not least, the Stock Market. Once again, anyone paying attention knows the pumping of billions of dollars into the economy by the Fed is feeding this buying frenzy. Ever notice how it drops like a rock any time Bernanke mentions raising interest rates? It will be interesting to see what happens when, or if, they ever raise rates. In the mean time, those near or in retirement, who depend upon the interest earned on their hard earned savings to offset the cost of living, are not nearly as celebratory.
In closing, let me add that human nature dictates that Americans pay close attention to the issues that affect them personally, as well as their financial bottom line. Right now, that issue is the disaster that is Obamacare, and the negative effect it is having on them and their families, as well as the deception that continues to come from the Obama Administration.
Attempting to change the subject won't make that go away.posted @ Friday, November 15, 2013 - 09:04
Isn't this the same Bill Clinton, who only recently, publicly endorsed and touted Obamacare as the greatest thing since sliced cheese?
Perhaps he should have read it before he endorsed it. Make no mistake, Clinton could care less about those losing their current coverage, he only seeks to gain political coverage for the Dems, one in particular, his wife.
Obamacare is structured like a house of cards, Pull one out, the whole thing collapses. The President, and all those associated with this law, knew millions of citizens would lose their coverage. It was designed this way deliberately, so as to force as many young, healthy people onto the exchanges as possible.
Allowing those losing their coverage to continue it as is, or to raise the eligibility for subsidies, as the President is hinting, will increase the cost of this monstrosity by billions of dollars, in turn increasing the deficit, which will be another broken promise.
We've already seen the effect of putting pre-existing condition coverage, and continued coverage of "children" up to the age of twenty-six into place, before any revenue kicked in. This decision, in an attempt to "sell it", has caused premiums to sky-rocket for everyone with insurance, and the "revenue" that was expected, is either slow in coming or non existent.
Live with it Mr. President, and Mr. former President. You wanted it, you got it. Problem is, we're all having to live with it, and it's not pretty!posted @ Wednesday, November 13, 2013 - 08:43
@Logical: Republicans had nothing to do with this proposal.
If you read the original article, it was the Board of Elections who suggested these changes in an attempt to save money. God forbid anyone attempt to save tax payer dollars. What a shocking concept!!
Gail Schrader and her team are totally non-partisan, and go out of their way to make the voting process run as smoothly as possible for all voters. They do a super job.
I would imagine the fact that more and more people are taking advantage of early voting, also prompted the suggestion for additional places to do so. It would seem to me that would make it easier, not more difficult for voters.
I assume by "The Others", you are referring to Democrats. I find it amusing that you are implying that they are the ones who would be intimidated by voting at a police station.posted @ Thursday, November 7, 2013 - 13:12
@RightIswrong: Those of us who don't like pepperoni on our pizza, have the option to opt out, or send it back.
Your, and Ms. Harrop's obvious sarcasm aside, the fact that Obamacare is affecting millions of Americans with either cancellation of their insurance, higher premiums, higher deductibles and co-pays is undeniable, and will cause financial pain to those affected, and lastly, is in no way humorous.
The fact that Americans have been misled by the Obama Administration regarding the effect of Obamacare is also undeniable. Harking back to Pelosi's statement that "You have to pass it, to you know, find out what is in it", is probably the most accurate statement ever made by her or any other politician.
Having said that, your comparison of Obamacare to sausage is not a bad one. There is much included in both that is simply not good for you.posted @ Tuesday, November 5, 2013 - 09:23
"But when the situation resolves itself, most Americans will forget what they were mad about."
Dream on, Ms. Harrop!
"It is true that a small percentage of people are seeing their private policies canceled."
That "small percentage" represents millions of Americans who were lied to by this Administration when they were told they could keep their insurance if they so chose. It's anyone's guess how it will affect those covered by their employers, once that mandate kicks in. This may only be the beginning.
My son is one of those who will lose his coverage. He is young, and healthy, and covered by a Major Medical policy. He is, however, one of the "lucky" ones, in that he is being told that if he opts to continue his policy before Dec., he can keep his current coverage for one more year. This time next year he will have to go with a more expensive policy including coverage he does not want or need.
To add insult to injury, these people are being told by the Administration, and it's minions, Ms. Harrop being one of those, that they are being duped, and are too ignorant to know what coverage is best for them. Only the "Government" knows that, right?
Among other issues these Americans may have with President Obama and his policies, and there are many, this one must top the list for them. Attempting to pass the buck and the blame to the insurance companies and those being affected, is not a wise move. However, passing the buck is what this President does best, is it not?
Make no mistake about it, this was done deliberately, as many of those now losing their coverage, are younger, healthier people, the same people that the President needs to enroll in Obamacare, to offset it's cost. They are not as ignorant as the President and Ms. Harrop would have you believe.
The old saying, "Don't pee on my leg, and tell me it's raining" comes to mind.posted @ Tuesday, November 5, 2013 - 08:45
@mpd0.59: "You saw what happened during the shutdown when "non-essential" services were cut. House Republicans were passing bill after bill attempting to restore funding to all those "non-essential" services, essentially undoing the shutdown through a series of piecemeal legislation."
You mean those "non-essential" services like funding for military family members to meet and retrieve the bodies of their fallen loved ones, and pay for their burials? The "non-essential" services allowing WWII veterans to visit their open-air memorial? Let's be honest, like the sequester, this was designed to cause as much pain as possible to citizens, and rose to the point of being ridiculous. "Never let a crisis go to waste".
Having said that, I agree that none of this would have happened, if it weren't for the wrangling over the debt ceiling. I don't necessarily agree with shutting the government down, as it affects too many of our citizens in a negative way.
However, what are those who believe that we are spending our way into oblivion, and subjecting our young people to a future of incredibly high taxes and low employment to do, in order to take a stand against it?
What is your suggestion, when we have a divided government based on a divided society? One side believes that you promise citizens whatever they want, no matter the cost, and the other believes the cost is unsustainable.
Negotiation? We saw how well that worked. I'm done arguing, I'll leave the solution to you and others here who don't seem to see the ever increasing government dependency and debt as a looming disaster. After all, "you won".posted @ Thursday, October 17, 2013 - 09:29
@mpd0.59: While that certainly qualifies as insanity, ignoring the mortgage payments, while installing a new pool does also.
Remember, the government takes in billions of dollars a day, and has enough of a revenue stream to pay the mortgage, and many other obligations, and not risk default. Funding the other millions it spends each minute, not so much.posted @ Thursday, October 17, 2013 - 08:22
@ZionHill: "No, what was accomplished is that we will pay off debts we already have incurred. This is not a spending authority, it is an authority to pay debts for costs already accrued ... and already approved by the Congress .... "
I understand that and agree. However the problem is, they won't stop at paying the debts we have already incurred.
Over the next year, as is always the case, they will continue to create new programs and new spending, that will require raising the debt ceiling once again. Instead of sitting down together, and coming up with ways to curb, and cut spending, to stay within that ceiling, and attempt to lower the debt, they happily continue on, like the obsessed spender who has managed to have their credit card limit increased once again.
It's a never ending cycle of madness, that will eventually destroy our economy.posted @ Thursday, October 17, 2013 - 07:55
To repeat a quote from an earlier post, "What's that definition of insanity again?"posted @ Thursday, October 17, 2013 - 07:20
Like everyone else, I am glad this insanity has come to an end, if only temporarily. Celebrating, however? Not so much.
Basically what has been accomplished by raising the debt ceiling, is that we can continue to borrow more money from China to pay our debt and allow us to run up even more. Our government spends millions of dollar a minute. Think about that, and ask yourself if you really think that is worth celebrating.
For those here, and elsewhere across the country, who are responding to this news as though their "team" just won the national championship, ask yourself this simple question: Would you, as individuals, be patting yourself on the back, because you managed to increase the limit on your credit card for one more year to meet your financial obligations, knowing the only way you will ever manage to pay it back, is to attempt to extort your employer for higher wages, or steal the necessary funds from someone else?
What's that definition of insanity again?posted @ Thursday, October 17, 2013 - 07:16
I am assuming that Rep. Lewis was arrested for some type of "civil disobedience". While that is his right, the question is, was it really necessary, or merely to gain attention to himself?
It is my understanding that this group was given a special permit by the Administration, exempting them from the government shutdown of the space that was used for their protest. If they were already given special consideration, why the need for any type of activity that would result in an arrest?
Another question I have, is where was Rep. Lewis' concern over the WWII Veterans who traveled thousands of miles to visit their memorial, only to face barricades they themselves had to overcome.
I saw several Representatives there to assist them in their endeavor, but don't recall Rep. Lewis being one of them. I have to guess their cause wasn't worthy enough of his time or disobedience.
I also have to guess that their cause wasn't worthy enough for a special permit by the Administration.posted @ Wednesday, October 9, 2013 - 08:18
I fail to see how raising the sales tax is going to spur economic development in Clarke County. Seems it would have the opposite effect. The more it cost consumers for their purchases, the more apt they are to shop elsewhere.
As far as the transit system is concerned, if it was as effective and desirable as some would have you believe, it would pay for itself, and it does not. As a previous poster pointed out, it has merely become another charitable concern. At least admit the obvious.posted @ Wednesday, October 9, 2013 - 07:54
@mpd0.59: "I wonder what the fighting ability of our armed forces would be, if they had to eat the food of the schools that dropped out."
You're joking, right?
Ask that question of those who are left of the "Greatest Generation". Their "fighting ability" was next to none, and they triumphed over the Japanese and the Nazi's in World War II. These were the fighting men and women who came to age during the Great Depression, where "healthy food", or any food for that matter, was a luxury for a great many.
Your analogy doesn't hold water. Pick another.
@Pflunk: "The government has never said that kids can't bring their own food."
However, if you check, most kids in this country today, some in spite of the income level of their parents, are on free or reduced lunches.
Why give that up, especially when fixing a decent lunch for your child to carry, requires effort.posted @ Tuesday, October 1, 2013 - 10:06
@mpd0.59: " Why would I want to go out of my way to shop at any of these stores?"
The same question could be asked of Oconee County citizens who shopped at some of these, and comparable stores, when they were located in Clarke County. Many did, though, I would be willing to bet.
The bottom line is tax revenue. Clarke County's loss is Oconee County's gain. Just how far out of the way are these stores, and will those who frequented them before, continue to do so? ANY loss of business to surrounding counties, should be of concern to us all.
"We don't want or need two bit comments from non-residents about Athens!!!!!!"
Sounds like playground banter, does it not? Perhaps you don't care for their comments, but all should agree we care for their business and dollars, as they should likewise.
As more and more stores and businesses move out of Clarke County, the need for residents of other counties to "go out of their way to shop here" becomes less necessary and desirable. Once again, their gain, our loss. Instead of making jokes over the bleeding, we should be looking for ways to stop it.posted @ Thursday, September 26, 2013 - 09:16
@Apox: "It will be the Party which acknowledges that there is a huge problem with Health Care Costs. . . . "
I believe that everyone acknowledges that there is a huge problem with the cost of healthcare. What they don't acknowledge, is that there is anything in the monstrosity called "The Affordable Care Act", that lowers it. Therein lies the problem.
Thomas Sowell: "It is amazing that people who think that we cannot afford to pay for doctors, hospitals, and medication, somehow think that we can afford to pay for doctors, hospitals, medication, AND a government bureaucracy to administer it".
I am waiting for the list of doctors, hospitals, and drug manufacturers, that are lowering their costs for their products and services rendered due to Obamacare. When that happens, at least a small part of your argument becomes valid.posted @ Thursday, September 26, 2013 - 08:04
Kudos to Cpls. Allen and Morris!!! Great job guys! A huge thank you for all you do to serve and protect the citizens of this county!!
We owe a huge debt of gratitude to these and all others in our Public Safety Community!!posted @ Thursday, September 19, 2013 - 11:28
@Greg Benson: There is no such thing as a "victimless crime". Even the smallest infractions that require jail time to be served, produce consequences to others.
That taxpayers in this, and counties throughout this country, have their hard earned dollars go to funding the millions it takes to maintain and operate a jail for those who refuse to obey the simplest of laws, makes us all victims.
As to the Christian aspect of this subject, I agree that forgiveness is divine. However, remember as Jesus forgave the adulterer, he said "Neither do I condemn you", but also added, "go and sin no more".
Anyone checked the recidivist rate in Clarke County lately?posted @ Friday, September 13, 2013 - 08:50
Interesting concept. If it works, great.
One has to wonder however, if those entrusted with the duties of running the jail, who are subjected to the same "yelling and screaming, the door slamming, all of it,” are given time out of their day for the same stress relief.
The same goes for those who day after day spend their time dealing with the underbelly of ugliness that exists in crime ridden neighborhoods, attempting to apprehend those who now reside in the jail.
How those who work in all areas of law enforcement manage to cope, has always amazed me. Anyone ever worry about their PTSD?posted @ Friday, September 13, 2013 - 07:40
America's new foreign policy: "Put your trust in the Russians". LOL
The bigger picture here is never draw a red line you are not willing to cross. It must be excruciating to the President to have Putin be the one to get him out of the box he put himself in. If anyone believes the Russians care about the interests of the U.S., I have some swampland in Arizona for sale.
This whole fiasco would be laughable, were it not so pathetic.posted @ Wednesday, September 11, 2013 - 08:13
@GradonSilverton: "Personally, I hope the retirees take the ACC government to task and adds another court loss to ACC’s wonderful record."
LOL! I assume you are referring to the "wonderful record" of the current County Attorney. The same County Attorney who was given a hefty pay increase made possible by the savings achieved in cutting insurance benefits for retirees like Mr. Roberts.posted @ Wednesday, September 11, 2013 - 08:00
@swhitney: That's very sage advice, and I agree.
However, the key word in your post is "current workers". What about those, who like Mr. Roberts, and even those current workers, whether employed with ACC or any other entity, who have invested twenty-five or thirty years with an employer, and are approaching, or are already retired?
They don't have the luxury of time. Time to invest, time to save, time to plan. Suddenly they are told, as you say, "you're on your own".
These are the employees, who were promised for decades, certain benefits, those benefits that kept wages lower, but were an incentive to remain with an organization. They planned their retirement accordingly. That they feel a since of betrayal, is normal,
@Logical: Your advice to "suck it up, baby, and stop mewling and puking", is at best, unfeeling, and unrealistic. Your words of "advice" must be comforting to this former firefighter, who no doubt gave decades of service to his community, as he struggles to make up this revenue shortfall on a fixed income. What do you suggest he cut out to make up the difference?posted @ Wednesday, September 11, 2013 - 07:49
@mpd0.59: "The reason the Brits are backing down is due to their bad experience with Tony Blair backing Bush in his invasion of Iraq to confiscate imaginary nuclear and biological wmds. Fool me once ..."
You could possibly be right on your speculation above. However, remember that the Brits remained a steadfast ally in Iraq throughout the entire campaign, including the surge. They could have pulled out early on, but didn't.
Also, remember that it was British intelligence, among others, that detected these "imaginary wmds", that now have magically appeared in Syria. The 20/20 hindsight of the Labour Party in Great Britain is reminiscent of the 20/20 hindsight of the Democrats here in Congress.
As long as we are speculating, could it be that the British are simply unwilling to back a U.S. President that has no coherent policy regarding the Middle East, and has talked out of both sides of his mouth regarding foreign policy, and has acted accordingly, since he emerged on the political scene?
Could it be that this has resulted in his losing credibility with our allies and enemies alike?
Could it also be, that they see this as merely the actions of a President who has backed himself into a corner with his "red line" comment? Offering no specific goal in action against Syria, perhaps they don't have a desire to join him in attempting to redeem himself.
All this aside, wouldn't you love to be a fly on the wall in the Bush household today?posted @ Friday, August 30, 2013 - 09:04
@dzogchen: Thank you for the info! Yes, I am delighted. However, want to make a wager over what the first order of business will be, when Congress reconvenes? My bet is on raising the debt ceiling, once again.
As for what is keeping the downward pressure on the economy, and slowing job growth? That's a debate for another day, but I will refer you to the topic of discussion above, as one of, if not the leading factor.posted @ Tuesday, August 27, 2013 - 11:01
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