@theold33: I don't know but I'll post a comment and let you know if I get there before you do.

Now that the subject of a cold dead mouth has been brought up I just thought of a good wormy-death song:

Don't ever laugh when a hearse goes by,
Or you may be the next to die.

They wrap you up in a bloody sheet,
And bury you under about six feet.

All goes well for a couple of weeks,
But then your coffin begins to leak.

The worms crawl in and the worms crawl out,
The worms play pinochle on your snout.

Your stomach turns a slimy green,
And pus comes out of you like whipped cream.

You lap it up with a piece of bread,
And that's what you eat when you are dead.

[quote][b]Shalmaneser[/b] - It's tasty.
Many (most?) of us eat for reasons more than nutrition alone.[/quote]

I would assert that most people eat animal protein out of long-standing habits and the misconception that it is necessary. As for taste, I find the taste rather disgusting after having had none for several decades. I used to enjoy smoking cigarettes heavily, but now the smell of them is disgusting to me and I am much better off. Same idea.

[quote][b]curiouscat[/b] - The Bible says it was when Cyrenius was governor of Syria under Caesar Augustus, and during the time when people had to go to their native city to be taxed.[/quote]

Jesus was born when shepherds were keeping watch over their flocks at night, so it would have been prior to mid- to late-October when they brought their flocks in. Also, Joseph and Mary went to Bethlehem to pay taxes. Tax time was harvest time (September), not winter time. It was customary in Judea to collect taxes immediately following harvest because agricultural income came at harvest time.

Jesus who is the word of God never tells us to celebrate his birth, but to celebrate his death. This we read in 1 Corinthians 11 specifically about the Lord's Supper. Not that there's really anything wrong with celebrating the birth of Christ far as I know.

What would be the reason to keep animal protein on the menu? I haven't eaten it in well over thirty years and I am very healthy.

Jesus was born in September but he was conceived nine months earlier in December! Life does begin at conception. The life of Jesus began in December. Merry Christmas. Joy to the World.

@dzogchen:
The highlight of your link is:
" . . . .If you’re one of those folks who have stayed utterly disengaged through all of this, do the honorable thing: Honor those for whom the vote really matters by staying home.

Indeed, it’s not just sound and honest—it’s the ethically responsible thing to do."

This is so true. I absolutely agree.

Ian Fleming unabashedly admitted to stealing the name James Bond from a real person, the author of a book called The Birds of the West Indies.

i love Sean Connery. Sean Connery is 007.

Where is the enthusiasm?

In Hilliard, Ohio, only 2,800 people bothered to show up to hear the President of the United States speak.

Meanwhile, in West Allis, Wisconsin, thousands gathered to hear Mitt Romney, and two thousand more listened outside in 40-degree weather.

Actually Obama saw the writing in the sand:

[quote][b]HailToAlmightyUGA[/b] - Again, what is it?
[/quote]

What else can it be? It's boiled peanut's first cousin twice removed.

Reince Penis?

[quote][b]Randy West[/b] - Your wife may talk in her sleep, but that doesn't mean she always tells the truth.[/quote]

If you're addressing your tidbit of wisdom to me personally then I should suggest you say "One's wife. . . " because I don't have a wife, I am one. If you're just tossing it out here in general then I would say if one has a wife and she talks in her sleep not telling the truth, then she is cheating on you. Seriously, you should get that drooling thing checked out.

[quote][b]Follow the Money[/b] - Too lazy to google it?[/quote]

What is this google goo goo muck and why would you elevate it to such revered status. I prefer devilfinder. Go there and you'll be sent to hell. Try it.
>)

[quote][b]Randy West[/b] - You wouldn't recognize truth if it smacked you across your drooling dawg jowls.[/quote]

Actually I don't have a drooling problem but I bet you do and it's likely in your lower extremity.

[quote][b]Digdug[/b] - Should I get Avenger to step in[/quote]

He's still wiping the poop off of his feet from the last time he stepped in (it).
Bullying? That's some BS too. I don't try to manufacture victimhood where there can be none. I do appreciate your kind offer, but somehow I don't feel threatened.
Let's leave Avenger to the foot-washing he surely must need.

@jtsim: Real dogs and Big Girls too, at least that's what Frankie Vallie and the Four Seasons sang.
Real dogs don’t cry.
Real dogs don’t cry-yi-yi (they don’t cry).

BS.
A 72-hour wait or a 24-hour one is not a problem, you can still get your baby sucked out of your womb if that's what you're dead set on doing.

Why not hear the heartbeat because the heart does beat. If you change your heart, fine. If your heart is made of stone, fine. At least there was full disclosure and you can still get your baby sucked out of your womb if that's what you're dead set on doing.

It is a lie that there is no negative lasting effect an a woman who has abortions. Some women don't have any problem with it, true enough, but then again, some people will do anything and have no remorse later. Plenty of women suffer in disparate ways over having had abortions, especially the women participating in multiple abortions. Women can benefit from some counseling or they can sit through it and still, you know what?, they can still get their baby sucked out of their womb if that's what they're dead set on doing.

So what's the problem? The short wait, the exposure to the fetal heartbeat, hearing some counseling, these are making it too inconvenient for you to deny the reality of the act? @Randy West:

[quote][b]Follow the Money[/b] - nobody is seriously proposing legislation to restrict abortion except the GOP.[/quote]

Translate that into real life, as in what are these proposed restrictions and if they exist, and how close are they to reducing the number of abortions? There is no forced reduction in access to abortion. there is no law forcing down the number of abortions here in Georgia or Indiana or anywhere in this country. If you want to kill a baby in the womb you know the places you can go. It's a "service" that is very available. Nothing for ya'll to cry about. The number of abortions is going up, not down.

[quote][b]Follow the Money[/b] - Right.[/quote]

Yeah right. Prove it.

[quote][b]E.J.[/b] - I disagree with your post[/quote] Don't make me cry.

What will these candidates be debating??
A. What they would like to do if they even had the slightest chance of winning?
B. Who they're really hoping to pull the most votes away from, thereby sabotaging their chances for election?
C. How long they've had their heads up their behinds?
D. Their thoughts on abortion, especially as it relates to rape (forcible, or statutory, or marital?) and how best to stir up a non-issue?
D. All of the above?

This guy, Indiana Republican Senate candidate Richard Mourdock, was asked a question and he gave his opinion, however unfortunately he actually worded it concerning what was intended. He is not (and nobody is seriously even close to) attempting to outlaw abortion. Chill out. You guys are the only ones wanting to make elections about abortion and your only reason is to scare voters into voting for the liberal. This dude is not campaigning on abortion or even trying to change abortion laws once he is in office. It was a response to a liberal's question. He took the bait. Nobody is seriously proposing legislation to restrict abortion. He just voiced his opinion, what he believed, not what he believed everybody should believe.

In 2008 it was all about "hope and change" (whatever the heck that was supposed represent). Now ya'll want to scare people into thinking they need to vote based on what might happen, imaginary stuff. Is subjectivity all you have? These media liberals want to ask about this crap every election. They're the ones bringing it up. Too bad the candidates don't just tell them what the issues really are and to quit making up scary imaginary non-issue issues.

OOOhh, don't vote for the conservative because he'll want to take away abortions! Forget about all the real issues! Vote against what might happen! Sheesh. Well I guess if you can’t win on the issues there’s always the abortion scare tactic to motivate a few voters.

I'll fix Potok's corruption of and gross oversimplification of history:
Dodd was spying for the Confederacy, which was fighting a war to defend itself from a separate nation invading it's homeland from the North. There was no law against States seceding. The states of the Confederacy decided they would be separate but the US refused to just let go, not because they loved the South.

The scariest movie ever was on last night. It was called Biden: A Heartbeat Away