[quote][b]Save our Republic[/b] - But accept that History should be unmolested, because the moment the revisionist re-write it, the lessons learned by it are forgotten![/quote]
Sadly, you do not see that your interpretation of this moment is entirely revisionist. The arguments made by the writer are nonsensical and illogical. They use and abuse evidence, existing far outside the boundaries of legitimate historical interpretation. It is widely accepted that the Pilgrims and the Jamestown settlers were different from each other and different from the writer's characterization. Have you read Adam Smith? Karl Marx? William Bradford? Doubt it. Real students and real historians read these texts and make plausible arguments, not berating their neighbors with fantasy and tirades about "government schools," mere selfishness parading as liberty. Shame. Our founding fathers who invented public education and the Pilgrims who followed the Gospels (not Marx) know not of the America you have invented. No legitimate historians outside of the 19th century would argue that history is Truth, that we can actually know what happened. But we can make a sound interpretation and be fair to the historical actors and the contemporary reader--at least try to get it right, rather than make the past fit our warped, narcissistic vision of the world.posted @ Monday, December 2, 2013 - 12:40
This is a joke, right? Comparing the Pilgrims to Karl Marx? Arguing that Jamestown, founded by the Virginia Company, was communal in nature? Any high-school history student can tell you that the Virginia Company was a joint-stock company, an early example of capitalism, and that these two early colonies were founded for very different reasons. Even Adam Smith himself argued for publicly-owned and government-kept roads. These Fox News guys should stick with imitating two-year-olds who scream only "Mine. Mine. Mine" and leave the history to historians and folks who use reason and fairness when interpreting a source.posted @ Sunday, December 1, 2013 - 21:42
Anyone know if the film will ever show in Athens?posted @ Sunday, November 3, 2013 - 20:57
Thank you, Prof. Dyer, for making UGA a better place.posted @ Tuesday, October 29, 2013 - 16:20
Fitting that the Tea Party supporters in these comments would miss and then ignore the history lesson entirely. Ellis is no radical historian, as he is made a living selling the founding fathers to the masses. Best line: the Tea Party "truly [believes] that government is “them,” not “us.” Therein lies the problem. We are the government, it is not an enemy. It is us.posted @ Thursday, October 17, 2013 - 11:36
@friendlyfire: Be careful. "Competition" and "self-reliance" are the foundational ideas of "standards" and standardized testing. Both Republicans and Democrats are responsible for eliminating creativity and the pursuit of student interests from education. Obama has continued to implement a single-minded, data-driven, and soul-wrenching formula for learning that was conjured by Bush. The lack of handwriting-instruction is a result of technology; punctuation/writing are no longer valued because they cannot be tested with multiple-choice exams. Without the exam data, how could we deem schools "failing," in need of reform, and, unfortunately, thus provide a stepping stone in an ignorant politician's election? Expectedly, Gov. Deal has proven himself a threat to the opportunity and education of so many of Georgia's children, and unfortunately the state legislature continues to fund less than 50% but make the absurd rules for neighborhood schools. We need communities, including those mesmerized by religion and rank, to support local public schools and invest in OTHER peoples' children.posted @ Tuesday, August 20, 2013 - 21:39
@Farmer GA: The two largest professional organizations of teachers mentioned above have no collective bargaining rights--the essential definition of a labor union. They are not unions. Yes. They are groups of teachers--a union--but not as a labor union as defined by either of the last two centuries. They do little more than provide legal services and beg on behalf of Georgias children before congresspeople who apparently find rationality as difficult as some on these boards and who are bought by walmart, koch, and Ga's "masters of the universe" who want to ignore the founder's constitutionally mandated charge to educate ALL Ga's childen.posted @ Monday, July 8, 2013 - 15:00
@Farmer GA: but you should be clear, honest, and respond to the point: you don't know any teachers who are union members. Such unions are illegal in Georgia. Strangely states with unionized teachers have better performing schools, per Rhee et al measures.posted @ Monday, July 8, 2013 - 13:57
Why is there no mention of Rhee's own cheating scandal? Rhee is pushing reform that will never work.
The tests do not measure learning, only learning in relationship to other students. Rhee and the reformers are simply choosing the winners and losers, eliminating the public's responsibility to educate ALL students. The reformers claim to be fighting bureaucracy, but in fact the tests and the NCLB reforms (from which they emerged) have substantially increased bureaucracy and red tape at all levels. Their arguments are without reason, and the students lose. The teachers who stand for the kids and speak out against Walmart, Koch, etc. are demonized and, more significantly, silenced.
@Eastville: Because everyone knows that the most self-serving profession is teaching. There is so much money in it. As a career, it is unmatched. And the collective bargaining that Georgia teacher professional organizations have done has awarded teachers so many perks. Please be a responsible citizen and educate yourself on Georgia education politics. Georgia is a right-to-work state. No unions.posted @ Monday, July 8, 2013 - 07:41
It is sad that the German government is left footing the bill to educate those making energy decisions in Georgia. Let's stop denying science, injuring our planet, and leaving disastrous consequences for our children. You would think, with all their rhetoric, state leaders would be better stewards of our resources.posted @ Saturday, July 6, 2013 - 08:44
Imagine that, some mindless poster on this board claiming to know more about education than people who have studied it for decades and those who practice it everyday.
In other shocking news, the desert is dry.
Just because you have been to school doesn't mean you have a clue how it works, much less how students learn.posted @ Sunday, May 19, 2013 - 21:37
[quote][b]RightWingExtremist[/b] - Alas, you should not throw stones in a glass house my friend.[/quote]
That doesn't even make sense. But some unionized teacher would have told you that your logic, even hidden behind such eloquent aphorisms, is, in fact, not logical. Is that the source of the disrespect? Mr. Yarbourgh is suggesting the very lesson you propose. You get that, right?posted @ Tuesday, February 26, 2013 - 07:18
[quote][b]RightWingExtremist[/b] - Our state legislature isn't starving our school systems, it's the ineptitude on display in the Metro Atlanta Area that starves the life out of our schools.[/quote]
Your state legislature is definitely starving our schools. Since Sonny's reign, the dismantling of the state's constitutional obligations to our children have been systematically and deceptively undone. This has been exacerbated by the economic crisis and the subsequent attack on the public sector at all levels of government. I am sad that you too are under the spell of propaganda. You understand that teachers in Georgia cannot be in a union, right? We, Georgians, love the right to work. How many teachers do you know? Sadly, the injury caused by your lack of respect, the lack of respect of kids, and the frustrations caused by the Gold Dome make that massive paycheck just not worth it for most teachers?posted @ Tuesday, February 26, 2013 - 07:11
@T J Haas: Americans used to believe in community, Mr. Haas. They used to understand their responsibilities to their neighbors. You apparently have reduced all community to economic relationships and abandoned your obligations to our community. What a shame! You understand that schools can never operate under the principles of competition, and you understand Adam Smith advocated for government spending on behalf of the public good, right? You have read Smith, right? Taxes are not confiscation, not stealing.
Vouchers do not implement capitalist principles. In the free market, those who produce can determine the value of what they sell. They can determine the raw materials and labor used in the creation of a product. None of this is available to the public school teacher. Unlike your vision of educating a few at the expense of your neighbors, teachers who serve the community must accept ALL students, no matter the flaws. They must accept those with disabilities, those who lack your wealth, and those who make mistakes (or as you say, those who sin). Public school teachers cannot change these things as a CEO can. That is just the production side. Once the product is created, according to capitalism, the market will determine the winner if all restrictions are removed. Are all students, even those who receive vouchers to attend sub-par private schools, going to be tested in the same way to determine the worth of the product? Hardly. Unfortunately the market is not really what you want. Please reconsider your constitutional responsibility to ALL of Georgia's children. Please consider the interests of others before yourself. Amazingly all of those "incompetent" and "union-controlled" public school teachers have discovered that gospel.
The Catholic Church has a single doctrine, hierarchy of clergy, etc. Every church follows the same principles, beliefs, and practices. Of course, diversity submits to these top-down realities; otherwise this would not be Catholicism. The nature of the Baptists is that each church is different and makes its own rules. Therefore if cultures differ, they split apart. Comparing the two is unfair. Perhaps both the Catholics and Baptists are necessary to teach all how to get along.posted @ Saturday, January 19, 2013 - 10:25
@fixit: If you think public-school principals cause this, you have no idea how public education works. Please turn your attention to Atlanta and find, oh, any legislator to blame for overcrowding, poor curriculum, etc. The chorus of failing public education is tired and sad. It has been a myth since the beginning. It is amazing how some Americans fail to see the value in their neighbors.posted @ Thursday, January 17, 2013 - 19:37
[quote][b]fixit[/b] - Public school administrators are not "educators." As a group, they don't teach and they block implementation of the management tools that every other industry relies on[/quote]
Insane. You understand they are not producing machine-made goods, right? Principals and teachers train, educate, and care for people, for children. They do not monitor machines, implement science to serve greed, or eliminate the raw materials and inefficiencies not conducive to profit. Get over yourself. These folks serve people, not pocketbooks. They have not the freedoms of CEO's.posted @ Thursday, January 17, 2013 - 13:13
Like our student evaluations, these evaluations attempt to quantify something that cannot be quantified. Teaching is an art, not a science. The more arbitrary numbers assigned to teachers and students, the more the schools can be deemed failing. We will know less about ourselves, what our kids know, and how to teach. The ultimate goal is to destroy the institution born alongside our Constitution--public education--not to make school better. Thank you, NCLB! It's your birthday, and we are all the worse for it.posted @ Tuesday, January 8, 2013 - 12:20
John Locke, not God, authored the natural rights of life, liberty and property based on the idea that humans are born without predetermined tendencies, such as original sin--a fundamental Christian belief. Atheist and Deist ideas permeated the Enlightenment and the minds of the founding fathers. Certainly none were fundamentalist Christians of this century. Why does the Bible (the inherent word of God), for instance, fail to condemn slavery, if God was on the side of life, liberty, and property? Perhaps we should also mention that the perpetrators of the American Revolution, and the founders of Jamestown, acted in order to make some folks rich, the very thing Christ notes as a stumbling block to faith. The Gospel is not Adam Smith. When reason is used to justify America's religious origins, folks at least have the decency to point to the good Calvinists of New England. But always we have substituted our politics for true faith. Someone needs to move those history books to the fiction aisle, and possible the politics away from fundamentalist dogma.posted @ Sunday, November 18, 2012 - 08:13
[quote][b]kayron4[/b] - On average, a public
charter school receives 62% of the funding that is spent per student by traditional schools.[/quote]
Again, more deceptive statistics. 100% of charter funding will come from the State, while the State is now funding only about 40% of each child's education. So the state is going to pay over twice as much to educate the children on its choosing and leave the rest behind. Where will the money come from? From the money collected by the state to educate ALL of Georgi'a children, not to educate a SELECT FEW. Shame, Kayron, shame.posted @ Sunday, November 4, 2012 - 09:51
[quote][b]Lee Becker[/b] - Sen. Bill Cowsert's comments i[/quote]
It is a shame Cowsert and Williams lacked the courage to stand up for Georgia's children. I guess the corporate interests and the Deal pressure was too great. Cowsert has also said that the amendment, if passed, would not affect Oconee schools. This is absurd. Where will the money come from? How will the State, which cannot adequately fund students' education today, find twice as much to send to charter schools, with little to no accountability? Education is not the issue; it is all about giving the most money to the students the State finds worthy. The Gold Dome simply does not think the Constitution is right; they see no responsibility to educate ALL our kids. It is sad especially since public education was an American idea from the beginning. Even those who feared big government the most--Jefferson, etc--were adamant that public education was essential.posted @ Sunday, November 4, 2012 - 09:47
@jrtank: Historically most Americans have been very clear and united on the issue that slavery to the government would happen only when we stop educating ALL of our kids. Thanks for supporting this, jr. Why abandon your responsibility to ALL Georgia's students and use the salaries of a handful of administrators to eliminate opportunity for children. Ah yes, because some children are worth educating and some are not. Herein lies the promise of this amendment and our shady Gold Dome.posted @ Sunday, November 4, 2012 - 09:37
@Save our Republic: You understand you are defying your name. The founders believed that public education funded adequately for ALL students was essential to the preservation of the republic. You are advocating separating some students for "better" education than others, though the numbers don't even support that. If everyone those with the self-interest as you, unable to see beyond their own home, our Republic would cease to exist. Even Jefferson, who defended small government, equal rights, and yes slavery, believed that all kids should be educated and it was the COMMUNITY's responsibility. The charter school idea is built upon segregation of students: those whose parents can provide transportation v. those who folks cannot, those who have special needs, and those who don't meet certain criteria (or as the charter folks call it, a lottery system). Why not give the freedom from bureaucracy (which was created by the pro-charter folks) to ALL children, teachers, and parents? Why not make every school a charter school? This would be only fair. Shame on our state for promoting lies and deception, while ignoring our responsibilities to the next generation.posted @ Sunday, November 4, 2012 - 09:35
@hardrocker: This is a great idea to remedy the excess bureaucracy that the "Vote Yes" folks have been crying against. The number of counties in Georgia has often limited our ability to make good things happen. But then you might have a larger number of folks disconnected from the political process, which has driven so many in metro Atlanta to lash out against school boards. It is a tough problem. I trust no one at the Dome to make a reasoned, honest decision. Everything is a veil for corruption, greed, etc.posted @ Sunday, November 4, 2012 - 09:26
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