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Paying For OnlineAthens

Or a bald headed old fart.

posted @ Saturday, February 8, 2014 - 23:59

Paying For OnlineAthens

What if I'm Mormon and have 6 wives? Sounds like a violation of my religious freedoms. Wink

posted @ Saturday, February 8, 2014 - 22:28

Slingshot returns, bringing global art community a little closer to Athens

[quote] a nigh of bands only from Japan [/quote]

I don't think I can stay up all NIGH for that excitement.

In fact, I don't know how long a NIGH is.

posted @ Saturday, February 8, 2014 - 22:19

Athens man on probation caught with gun

I bet his on-the-job coworkers will miss him dearly.

Meanwhile, the jail is full of folks who hazed people who volunteered to knowingly be hazed.

posted @ Saturday, February 8, 2014 - 13:47

Paying For OnlineAthens

4? Thought it was 3.

Anyone want to buy access on a time share?

posted @ Saturday, February 8, 2014 - 13:30

Man arrested trying to climb White House fence

Trying to get out?

posted @ Saturday, February 8, 2014 - 13:01

Kingston says create jobs, not extend unemployment

The incentives are built to reward people who don't. Who don't work. Who don't pay their mortgage on time. Who don't make good decisions.

posted @ Saturday, February 8, 2014 - 12:54

Harrop: CBO report isn't bad news for Obamacare

I know a couple that are divorcing, his income is too high, so she can get "affordable" coverage. Tis sad, but they'll still live together, just not on paper. Psssst: Don't tell the feds.

Everything has consequences. The damn of it is that those consequences impact people that had no say in it.

Government will, maybe, eventually cobble together a bunch of patches and fixes and declare it a success. In the mean time people lose. Jobs, stability, assurance, maybe more. Homes, businesses, investments.

We used to know what tomorrow would bring based on the facts and circumstances of today and the recent past history. Our individual skills and abilities, and the decisions we've made and the actions we've taken all are an omen of our individual future. Not any more. The future taxes and insurance premiums are based, not on your decisions, but on decisions of people whose actions or inactions you can not control.

Toto, I don't think we're on the yellow brick road anymore.

posted @ Friday, February 7, 2014 - 12:54

Harrop: CBO report isn't bad news for Obamacare

[quote][b]marshalld[/b] - How long have Americans demanded immigration reform?[/quote]

Not as long as immigrants have been demanding immigration reform.

posted @ Friday, February 7, 2014 - 12:22

The Editor's Desk: Road diets, experts and our place in the scheme of things

[quote] Whatever we may fancy our lives to mean, one of the ultimate truths we need to touch every now and again is that in the grand scale of the universe, to our close celestial neighbors we’re merely a bright spot in the night sky. [/quote]

And here I always thought I was one of the dimmest bulbs on the Christmas tree.

posted @ Thursday, February 6, 2014 - 23:43

Mediterranean cafe to open on Prince Avenue is May

[quote] "Mediterranean cafe to open on Prince Avenue is May" [/quote]

It's almost worth $10 a month to poke fun at the story titles.

I swear it was fixed earlier today. Oh well, it is after happy hour.

posted @ Thursday, February 6, 2014 - 23:28

The Editor's Desk: From the Lyndon House to Prince Avenue

How about turning Prince into three lanes, one in, one out, and one center turn lane. As it is now, it's four skinny lanes, especially so where there is on street parking. Three lanes would give more room and provide maybe safer parking, especially is you kept it to one side or the other (and not both sides on the same stretch).

The planters sound nice, they're removable if the experiment doesn't work out as envisioned, but in this heat, what would grow in an upended culvert pipe?

posted @ Thursday, February 6, 2014 - 18:45

More snow might fall on Athens Thursday night

[quote][b]maxcat07[/b] - Why is it that we often think that we are the center of the universe?[/quote]

Why is it that some people think that taxes can fix whatever mess we're in? Especially if, as you say, this is not specific to Athens, Georgia or the US.

Yet some people want to tax the poop out of people in hopes that other countries will clean up their act too?

The US could cut their emissions to zero, and make every manufacturing facility produce zero waste, and there would still be "climate change".

And the worst of it? It's that the bible thumpers will tell the bible deniers that the earth will be destroyed by fire (ie: global warming), and there ain't nothing you can do about it.

posted @ Thursday, February 6, 2014 - 16:30

Georgia Tech student burned over 90 percent of body

[quote][b]ChicoEscuela[/b] -

I wonder if you read the article or just skimmed to the victim's name so you would know which direction to take your racist ramblings.

[/quote]

The sanitized version that made the cut at the ABH world wide headquarters omitted the fact that he did his undergrad work at the University of Tehran.

No joke. Fact. Yet omitted from print because to let the readers know the truth is too much to bear.

So read the facts and then decide how nefarious this situation is.

posted @ Thursday, February 6, 2014 - 12:47

More snow might fall on Athens tonight

If it weren't for global warming, it'd be really cold.

posted @ Wednesday, February 5, 2014 - 22:59

Purported gang members rush into Athens home and assault residents

Geez. You anti gun kooks want people to feel safe, to not feel the need for self protection? Then get the criminal element out of the picture.

Let's see. They all have records (juvie is sealed). They're on parole. Some may be awaiting trial on other soon-to-be dismissed charges. They'll get probation, for sure. High school (or middle school) dropouts. Not a one worked more than 40 hours all of 2013...........combined. No one has time for this nonsense when you got to put in 40 to 60 hours.

posted @ Wednesday, February 5, 2014 - 15:58

Husband and wife team pull Bonnie & Clyde type robbery in Athens

[quote][b]nowheregirl[/b] -

@grove600: Could you say that again. I don't think they're listening. The higher their ears, the less chance they'll hear ya. Scream, if ya have to. Smile

[/quote]

I'm afraid that if I scream too loudly, I'll get banned.

posted @ Wednesday, February 5, 2014 - 11:43

Paying For OnlineAthens

As we all are, apparently.

"Customers, we don't need no stinking customers."

posted @ Wednesday, February 5, 2014 - 11:37

Husband and wife team pull Bonnie & Clyde type robbery in Athens

Please don't take any of this as personal. You're one of the best things the paper has going for them.

I think some of the problems stem from the price point and limited page views "per month", but mostly I believe it had to do more with the manner in which it was rolled out and touted by the upper management. It came across as arrogant. And management talked down to the customers (even if they were non-paying). You can't do that. Ever. And you can't do that where the paying customers can hear/read it.

You cited a plumber, so to keep things in that light, what if that plumber came and delivered a leaky product (typos = drips)? Would you, the consumer be happy with that? Willing to keep using that plumber? Yes, it's only a drip, and yes, you fixed it when it was brought to your attention. But you know, a little preventive attention to detail by the plumber goes a long way. Lets just say they tested the system and looked for drips instead of relying on drip testing software.

Deliver good drip free product and more people will be willing to pay for it.

Price is still going to be an issue and really, you couldn't have been making payroll on the subscribers. Your money makers have always been advertisers, be they commercial ads, obits, the classifieds or legals. That's the meat of the business. And that meat has gotten leaner over the years (many more places for advertisers to spend their money).

Subscribers should have been paying for the printing (paper, ink, pressman, and delivery). If the business model is too rely on subscribers (print or digital) to make payroll, then I'm afraid you're doomed. Especially with digital, there will always be someone willing and quite able to deliver equivalent product (complete with typos) for less, even free. Flipboard comes to mind. And it'll not be long before they have local news right down to my block of the hood.

So you have to compete. And the decision is what to compete for. Viewers/readers? Advertisers? Probably a balance, for sure. Advertisers want viewers/readers. Viewers & readers want content. And unlike one of the "higher ups" opinion, viewers and readers don't want ads. Oh, we know they're a necessity. We know they're there because we're there, and advertisers want to be where the consumers (potential customers) are. Yeah, there are a few, like my wife, that peruse every ad and every insert. But if you go 100% ads, you're doomed, and you know it.

So whaddya do? You go and alienate the readers? That's not cool. Then they (they being management, let's stick with blaming them) try to revamp the paper to appeal to a wider audience. They did that by adding more pages full of content that is, really now, let's be honest, meaningless to a good chunk of the readers. Please pass on that they need to cover the stock report. No, no, no, not the DOW, the prices of livestock at the auction barn sale last week. Surely there are some cattle farmers out there that would subscribe for that. My hometown paper growing up did just that, crops too. I bet they still publish those reports.

Boil it down: You've gotten away from what it was that made the local paper have value to the readers. And the readers have left because they don't see the value compared to what you're asking for access. Will management recognize that and take corrective action before it takes too big a toll?

Our subscription renews this month. My wife and I have already discussed not renewing the daily delivery we've had for a decade or longer. If anyone in management cares, it's because of declining content.

Oh well.

posted @ Tuesday, February 4, 2014 - 19:59

Seagraves: An Obamacare success story

Then don't pitch it as the cure-all that it's being pitched as.

[quote] there is no penalty for pre-existing conditions [/quote]

Yes, there is. They're just divvied up to the rest of us.

[quote] no co-pay for preventative health care [/quote]

Yes, there is. It too is divvied up among the rest of us.

[quote] financial assistance [/quote]

Again. Take the premiums, make the family pay some amount (maybe, in some cases), and divvy the remaining premium among the rest of us.

Y'all can "woo hoo" all you like, till the bill comes due.

Look, all you've done here is shift the costs off on people who have zero ability to control those costs. Taxpayers can not eat right and exercise for the diabetic husband/father. In fact, it somehow violates his rights to expect him to maintain his health better so as not to be a burden on society. That society remember, that's footing a huge portion of his medical costs. There's no benefit to them to do anything to keep total costs down.

This is a slow motion train wreck with a few of us up front screaming bloody murder. And while a few of you are blissfully in the caboose enjoying the scenery, the rest of the country is stuck in the middle along for the ride with no clue.

posted @ Tuesday, February 4, 2014 - 16:21

Seagraves: An Obamacare success story

And I'll add that if it comes down to losing a house or car -v- paying that monthly premium, the premium payment goes bye-bye. In a financial tight, people make decisions that run counter to the decisions you or some suit hundreds or thousands of miles away would make for them.

posted @ Tuesday, February 4, 2014 - 12:03

Seagraves: An Obamacare success story

Don't get too giddy Nancy. While the health insurance that taxpayers are paying for might cover the family medical bills, if they can't work because of an illness, they will lose their house, car, and other assets because health insurance does not cover their living expenses.

I once read that the most frequently cited reason for bankruptcy in Canada was medical/health reasons. And while they might not have one cent in medical bills, not having earned income, for as little as a few days for many, might be the start of financial ruin.

posted @ Tuesday, February 4, 2014 - 09:31

Woman urinates on Athens grocery floor

It should be hosted by O'Looney. It'd be a blockbuster. And it can have opening music by a local band made up of members of the three bands that broke up the prior month.

posted @ Monday, February 3, 2014 - 23:24

Husband and wife team pull Bonnie & Clyde type robbery in Athens

because all but four of the stolen car’s tires had been flattened

Stop sticks got the spare?

posted @ Monday, February 3, 2014 - 23:17

UPDATE: Police waiting for school buses to unload, children to be safe, before taking action against alleged shooter in Sunday murder holed up at Athens apartment complex

Yeah Joe. You're the hardest working reporter at the paper.

posted @ Monday, February 3, 2014 - 17:44

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