[quote][b]whatsthepoint[/b] -

Tell me again what this cesspool contributes to a civilized world besides providing daily material for the blotter?

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They're job creators. More police, more EMS, more people working in the justice and penal/corrections system, more jobs at DFACS. Of course, more jobs down at the couple dozen welfare and social services providers, as well as at the IRS to collect taxes from those of us who are providers of taxes and not consumers of taxes.

I'm sure eveyone involved is receiving financial support from the taxes paid by those of us who work, who love and care for our children, and who respect authority even when we disagree with some of it. With no possibility that the money flow will get cut off, there's no incentive to act like normal human beings. So what we end up with are people who act like animals and get paid for it.

It doesn't look like they used enough pepper spray, he can still open his eyes a little.

You can change people's behavior by taking away their benefits. Good behavior should get paid, bad behavior, not.

I bet background checks would have prevented this.................

[quote][b]Farmer GA[/b] -

Irrational fear of weapons

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Spurred on by irresponsible reporting.

[quote][b]Colonel McCheese[/b] -

Who would want to live 800 ft. down range from a firing range? If I owned property and a range was trying to move in next door and put me in such a position you bet I'd be [filtered word]. Go to the damn wilderness or some backwater like Douglasville or Lawrenceville for that.

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Indoor gun ranges are safe. There are rules and protocol for how to construct them to meet safety concerns. The feds already have rules that would apply here, and how dare some liberal goonies over rule the federal government. Someone might confuse them for a conservative.

Seriously though, the firing line out Atlanta Hwy doesn't have holes in it's walls or roof. Proper use of plating and traps, and safe firearms practices by the users keep it that way. Sound proofing helps dampen the sound outside the structure, as well as in other parts of the same structure. Safest though would be a basement facility, or one that can construct a dirt backstop behind the target wall. Oh, they're inspected often for possible problems with the safety structure and systems in place. Any weaknesses or damaged plates are repaired or replaced. This applies to outdoor ranges too.

The lady they interviewed on TV seemed to be more concerned about the types of people that would be carrying big scary guns into and out of the facility, and seemed oblivious to the very limited possibility of a round finding a way out of the facility.

[quote][b]crankyyankee[/b] - If no one in America today is responsible for anything [/quote]

The working stiffs are responsible.....for paying the bills rung up by maroons that got elected by more maroons.

What else is to be expected by the administrative staff of the most irresponsible (lets blame someone else) presidency in history. The tone is set at the top, and we know what that tone is: goof off, then blame someone else.

They're either incompetent boobs that don't know who is doing what, when or where, or they're conniving lying backstabbing theives willing and able to sell out their friends, coworkers, employees and countrymen. Either way they should all be fired ASAFP.

Maybe he saw the sign for Krystal chicks and thought "I'll take a couple home tonight".

Wonder if he got those with or without cheese.

[quote][b]hjfedrick[/b] - If you say that the buck stops at the top, then why didn't Bush say he was responsible.[/quote]

Who did Bush blame? Clinton? No. Cite one time that Bush blamed Clinton. Just one. And if you can find one instance, I've got thousands of instances where Obama blaned Bush.

Who did Obama blame.

You may not like the decisions Bush made. I might not like the decisions Bush made. But he made them, he stuck by his decisions, and he didn't pawn off the results to the prior president, his cabinet, staffers, or unnamed low-level government employees.

If those Global Warming folks didn't make it so damn COLD in May maybe the homeless wouldn't have a fire going.

[quote][b]hjfedrick[/b] - What other eveidence to you have at this current time in reference to Obama[/quote]

He's either in-charge and responsible for the government he runs, or he's not responsible.

I'm banking on not in-charge, not-responsible, irresponsible, etc.

So the question is, why's he there if he's not in charge and not responsible.

Truman said: "The buck stops here"

Obama says: "It's someone elses fault"

Take responsibility for the government you are the head of, or get out.

[quote][b]Chief Weems[/b] - I had a hamburger.[/quote]

And then caught the hamburglar.

"no stranger to the criminal justice system."

Maybe that system isn't working like it should.

[quote][b]ecco1[/b] -

@grove600: I think it would have to be via certified mail wouldn't it?

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I would think so, but probably first class mail would suffice. I suspect that's how the photo tickets are delivered. What would happen if say someone took your ticket, or it blew off and the driver didn't know about it. What if payment is sent, but never received (post office failure) or never properly processed (court house failure). Just boot the guy? Leaving a ticket isn't giving proper notice. There needs to be that one extra step to ensure notice is given.

........and scooters get to park on the sidewalk. For free.

[quote][b]Tripollo[/b] - My point is simply that nothing is "free" and if you think that your free parking space exists[/quote]

Seems taxes paid for the parking spece to begin with, and taxes pay to maintain it. Seems the parking fee is used to pay the salaries of the parking meter police.

[quote][b]Ben Had[/b] -

"The youngsters are doing all this,"

Most people say they would give their life to defend their country. We need to see that same commitment to defending their community.

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Unfortunately the community has been de-balled from years, decades really, of government reliance. "The government needs to do something!!" is the most you'll hear. And nothing will get done. People haven't been groomed to fend for themselves.

[quote][b]Tripollo[/b] -

@grove600: Hate to break it to you, but nothing in this life is free. The customer is paying for those "free" spaces through other indirect costs charged by the business either in their hourly rate for services or in the mark-up in retail prices.

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Yeah. I understand the theory, but the meal prices aren't cheaper downtown because I pay separately for the parking.

An assault weapons ban would have prevented all of this and brought jobs and prosperity to New Orleans.

Tareze and Marquavious need to thank their mommas for giving them hireable names.

While in front of the judge, petition the court for a name change to Terry and Mark. Then get a job after you do your time.

See. Sometimes having a gun protects you form someone with a gun who wishes you harm.

3 am? I'd be packing too.

[quote][b]Minion[/b] - Yeah it does.. it's called "Public Servant"[/quote]

Well, ya gets what ya pays for. It's called taxes.

We, the public, should not and can not rely on the taxpayer funded government for their needs, be those basic needs or emergency needs. And especially if the public is not willing to, or can not pay the costs of having the government 100% ready to respond to 100% of the emergencies 24/7/365 with professional competent well trained personel and over staffed response teams with state of the art equipment just seconds away.

@Minion: Lots of places not in downtown have this thing called free parking just a few feet from the door of the establishment.

Let me pose a question: Does the county send out a "statement" or notice of these built up parking fines to the vehicle owner of record? I would hope so, which would solve the "due process" issue I think.

I know they do that for the red-light violations caught on camera. Not that I've had one you see.....but I know a guy who knows a guy who's friend got one (back in the day)..

The last parking ticket I got downtown was 3 minutes after the metered time expired and about 2 minutes before I got back to my car. $10 fine I think. I just imagine the meter maid standing there waiting for my time to expire so they could make their quota that day. $2 chunked into the meter and a $10 parking ticket adds to the cost of doing business downtown.

[quote][b]Kfuller[/b] - however; it doesn't give any of them the right to be DISRESPECTFUL in any sort to people who are calling to get help to someone in a life or death situation.[/quote]

Nor does it give the caller the right to demand stuff, right now damnit, from the dispatcher.

Dispatchers need to be able to give clear instructions to the responders (be that police, fire or ambulance) and they can only get them from someone who is able to give that information clearly and coherently. Most people in the middle of an emergency have their heart racing and their adrenaline pumping and spurt out information much faster than any operator can manage. Plus we often don't know the answers to the questions, some pretty basic like "where are you?". And we're a microwave society, expecting everything, right now, fast and cheap.

Rule #1: Don't rely on the government for help.

Rule #2: Refer to rule #1.