@Long Sufferer: May I say it's only been proven to you.
No you may not. Of course you low information voters would like to think differently.
Irrefutable Proof that Darrell Issa Completely and Totally Lied About the IRS Scandal: http://www.politicususa.com/2013/08/20/definitive-proof-republicans-irs-...
Darrell Issa’s 5 Biggest Lies About The IRS ‘Scandal’: http://www.nationalmemo.com/darrell-issas-5-biggest-lies-about-the-irs-s...
Fake IRS Scandal Backfires as Democrat Sues the IRS over 501 (c) Regulation: http://www.politicususa.com/2013/08/21/democrat-sues-irs-501-c-regulatio...
The report on the IRS so-called scandal never linked Obama or the White House with ordering the IRS to target the tea party. In fact the IRS targeted progressive and liberal groups for review the same as the tea party. And guess what, none of the tea party organizations were denied their 501(c) status but some progressive groups were.
You really ought to keep up with the REAL news and not the crap from right wing media.posted @ Thursday, October 10, 2013 - 12:08
@Foghorn123: I also believe the President's stonewalling and refusal to negotiate and be a leader will not sit well with the voters and will impact on Democrats.
Actually the democrats had a habit of caving to the demands of the republicans, and now they've developed a backbone because they know if they cave in now, the republicans, under the leadership of the tea publicans, will use this ploy over and over again to get what they couldn't through normal legislation and elections but with a gun to the democrats head every time they don't get their way.
Once all the features kick in to the ACA, it will become as popular as Social Security and Medicare.posted @ Thursday, October 10, 2013 - 11:52
@Foghorn123: the IRS voter suppression of TEA party organizations
Another lie that has been proven false but that doesn't stop you from spreading it. Please feel free to prove me wrong.posted @ Thursday, October 10, 2013 - 11:44
@Simple Man: So you wouldn't consider defaulting on the good faith and credit of the United States a cliff diving sport? Then I hope you don't learn the hard way that it is. If you thought the Recession of 2009 was bad, you ain't seen nothing to compare with that unless you survived the Great Depression.
Your ostrich in the sand act won't keep you from falling off the cliff like the rest of America. And talk about babbling, your brook runneth over.posted @ Thursday, October 10, 2013 - 11:39
@Foghorn123: It's never a good thing when a persons approval drops from the 50's to consistently in the 40's and now in the 30's. Recall when Bush was President this fact was a nightly news item. Hew as called stupid, a fool, a cowboy and was lower than whale ca-ca. So, where is the media now? With the state of the economy and total lack of leadership on display, I am surprised that it is so high.
Approval ratings are relative to the question asked. So what was the question?
Also approval ratings are not alone. They are comparable to the approval ratings of other with the same question asked. I'll bet Obama's approval rating is much higher than Congress and especially the republicans. Now where exactly is the leadership in Congress and in the republican party? Oh, right leading the US off a cliff.posted @ Thursday, October 10, 2013 - 10:29
The quote is a lie. Neither Obama or anyone in his administration told the park rangers to, "Make Life as Difficult For People as We Can". It was a quote from the Washington Times editor emeritus who's have been described as a neo-Confederate extremist.
In 2003, the Southern Poverty Law Center accused Pruden of using The Washington Times to push "extremist, neo-Confederate ideas." The report from the SPLC also stated that Pruden was "fired in 1978 by the now-defunct National Observer, where he had worked for 14 years, under suspicion that he had 'manufactured' quotes in his stories." – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wesley_Prudenposted @ Thursday, October 10, 2013 - 10:11
@nowheregirl: I nominate @avenger: Actions speak louder than words, right?
You'll need someone that can control his temper a lot better than me. Or maybe my temper would be useful if we could channel it into millions and millions of angry voters.posted @ Thursday, October 10, 2013 - 09:52
@seagra: I completely agree with your assessment.posted @ Thursday, October 10, 2013 - 09:47
@Foghorn123: The President's approval rate dropped today to 37 percent. Same as Bush,
While Congress' approval rating is 5%. A percentage never before achieved by Congress.posted @ Thursday, October 10, 2013 - 09:31
Ninjas don't use guns. It was a wanna be and not the real thing.posted @ Thursday, October 10, 2013 - 09:22
His first duty as a police officer is to serve and to protect. He failed in that duty and then he lied about it. He doesn't deserve the uniform.
There are also reports that there were several off duty cops in that biker rally. As much as four or five, and they did nothing to help the driver of the SUV.posted @ Thursday, October 10, 2013 - 09:17
@crankyyankee: This is just some of the things that happen in a leaderless country that has created a sense of entitlement that cannot be met.
Leaderless country? So you don't consider Obama the leader of our nation and the free world?
Did I hurt your feelings? I don't see my comments on this thread. Did the monitor delete them? Because I can't remember what insult you are talking about.posted @ Thursday, October 10, 2013 - 09:06
@Yknoh: Okra, why are you arguing with an idiot? You shouldn't waste your time. They cant comprehend the facts. As a matter of fact, they cant stand facts.
So Einstein give us the facts, c'mon, we're waiting. Tell me how a minority of tea publicans can put a gun up to our heads and say do this or else? And you're fine with that? They are domestic terrorists, threatening a disaster to our country to get their way.posted @ Thursday, October 10, 2013 - 08:53
@nowheregirl: When I was raised by my hard working parents, it was with the expectation and knowledge that we can accomplish anything we wanted to with hard work and a determination to succeed. My parents like many of their generation worked hard with two or three jobs to raise their kids and rise above poverty. It was a slow but steady process and they reached their promise land of a middle class life. They gave their children a better life than they had themselves.
How many parents can say that now? Since the 70s and 80s, the opportunities that our nation once provided for it's citizens that allowed an upward mobility as an incentive for working hard to rise from poverty was slowly but steadily being eroded by conservatives. They defined the poor as the enemy and liberals as their enablers. And this was all to help the middle class because they told them that the poor was stealing from them. Did cutting back on these needed benefits for the poor actually helped the middle class? Nope. In fact the middle class has seen much of their income eroded, too.
So ask yourself who benefited from conservative policies? The poor? The middle class? You just can't deny that the only class that benefited is the super rich. But folks keep voting these politicians into office that work for the rich and not ALL Americans. That's why we all need to get involved and educate ourselves. But as long as you just want to go along to get along, things won't stay the same but will only get worse.posted @ Thursday, October 10, 2013 - 08:41
@nowheregirl: I thought we were all in this together – you know the United States of America. The idea that you'll be fine is great, the attitude that city folks are on their own isn't. It's the attitude that the stuff happening in Washington won't affect you is like the ostrich sticking her head in the sand. This debt ceiling default will eventually affect the next generation a lot more than us. It may affect your kids or your kid's kids. But hey, so what, right?posted @ Wednesday, October 9, 2013 - 15:54
@nowheregirl: Of course you wouldn't waste your time trying to set straight the lies that the right wing continually spews on this site if you are apathetic to what happens to our country when the tea publicans finally shuts down our government. The Walmart Parking lot can be the place all of you can gather to get your crackers and cheese during our next Depression.posted @ Wednesday, October 9, 2013 - 15:10
@Okra: Without the government allowing them to incorporate and providing incentives to make sub prime loans they wouldn't have done so. The very existence of the FDIC and the prospect of a bail out led to them pushing the boundaries. The government itself provided every incentive for the bankers to do what they did.
Republicans were the ones who deregulated the laws governing the financial sector. Those laws were in place to stop businesses from doing what they did to precipitate the Great Recession. YOU know that wonderful word thatb republicans and tea publicans all embraced? DEREGULATION. Yep, it was the government (republicans) who made the recession possible with deregulating the laws that kept mortgage companies and banks from doing what they did with mortgages and loans.
You get less of that which is taxed and you get more of that which is subsidized. The government directed this entire disaster through its laws and policies.
Love the way you and republicans try to blame everyone else and refuse to take any responsibility for their irresponsible deregulation of banks and mortgage company rules that caused the crisis that occurred in 2009.posted @ Wednesday, October 9, 2013 - 13:11
@Okra: Both parties are full of morons...I don't have a stake in either...but you saying that it's all the fault of the republicans is naive at best and disingenuous at worst.
There you go again...trying to bring up false equivalencies. Democrats may be moron, that I won't contest, but republicans are imbeciles and tea party members are idiots. Look it up and you'll see morons and imbeciles/idiots don't compare. In fact of the three, morons are the most intelligent.
The dems can start everything back up right this second (minus fascist care). But, in the words of Harry Reid "why would *they* want to do that?" Meaning, they would lose the stand-off. Meaning, they are fully participating and trying to see who caves first.
That's right after being extorted, all the democrats have to do is capitulate to the extortionist's demands. All the republicans have to do is vote on a clean bill.
If you want to get to origins, it's the very existence of fascist care that precipitated this entire thing. Gonna blame that on the republicans too?
Do you understand what you've written? Many of the things that are in the health care law were republican ideas until Obama said yes to them. Then they were toxic because Obama agreed to them. How many times do people have to explain that the Affordable Care Act is law? Passed by BOTH the House and Senate and signed into law by Obama. The election of 2012 was a referendum on the ACA and the republicans LOST. They tried to derail it in the Supreme court and LOST again. So now they resort to extortion and hold the rfull faith and credit of our country hostage.
If republicans were really serious about reforming the ACA, they don't need to hold the government hostage to do it. They just need to raise the debt ceiling, open the government back up and pass meaningful legislation that tweaks and reforms the parts of Obamacare that's not working well. But nope, they just want a continuous confrontation with Obama and the democrats to obstruct government.posted @ Wednesday, October 9, 2013 - 12:25
@Okra: The banks and mortgage companies gave loans to those who didn't qualify and they KNEW it. They were not forced to give those loans but they didn't want to turn down easy, crooked money by defrauding their mortgage holders and the tax payers. Then they bundled up those toxic loans and sold them to unsuspecting investors for even more easy, crooked money. Interesting.posted @ Wednesday, October 9, 2013 - 12:03
@bostonsam: I agree with you, everyone should pay their bills.
Then pay it.
Failure to increase your credit line doesn't mean default.
The debt ceiling has to do with the bills already occurred. Default is when payment comes due and you fail to pay it. That's pretty straight forward and simple. You don't raise the debt ceiling, you don't have the money to pay your bills and you DEFAULT.posted @ Wednesday, October 9, 2013 - 11:55
@matt1141a: What is so sad is that the Great Depression (1929) and the Great Recession (2009) were precipitated by policies that republicans supported. Yep, talk about destroying everything while forgetting that republicans are the cause of catastrophic financial disasters that you conveniently forget or try to blame on others.posted @ Wednesday, October 9, 2013 - 10:36
Okra and grove600, you continually blame the party that is being extorted and exonerate the party that shut down government and now wants to default on our debt. The blame lies with the party that originated the threats, not the threatened.
C'mon, both of you, cite some credible sources that back up your claims instead of saying what you said is proof.posted @ Wednesday, October 9, 2013 - 09:16
@Okra: Please provide evidence that Obama and the democrats threatened to shut down government and default on the debt ceiling.
I get sick and tired of people like you throwing up false equivalencies and expecting people like me to believe you. PROVE IT!posted @ Wednesday, October 9, 2013 - 08:47
@Okra: You're hopeless....
As hopeless as your liberal utopia claim? Now isn't that precious. Yours cancels out mine.posted @ Wednesday, October 9, 2013 - 08:36
@Okra: Your assertion was that anyone trying to not increase the debt limit is holding everyone hostage, is insane, is evil, should be thrown out of office, is not serving the people, is burning down the country etc, etc.
Not my assertion at all. My claim is that democrats did not threaten to default on it's fiscal responsibilities. But that is exactly what the republicans have done.
Once again, Obama and the democrats did not threaten to shut down government by defaulting on our debt. Those votes were votes of protest that did not effect the passing of the debt ceiling. The debt ceiling passed and the democrats did not get what they wanted but helped pass the debt ceiling. You folks bend and misshape the truth to suit your destructive tendencies, which seems to be a libertarian trait.
In response to that I simply showed you that when it was convenient for Obama (as it is convenient for the Republicans at this time), your dear ruler also opposed raising the debt ceiling. What is there to refute? It's pretty plain.
Please provide evidence that Obama and the democrats threatened to shut down government and default on the debt ceiling. Hope they aren't Limbaugh or Hannity — two of the low information pitchers that folks on your side continually quote.posted @ Wednesday, October 9, 2013 - 08:33
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