Well done ABH comment section. You never fail to make ACC look like the backward racist county that it is not.
You all keep trying to drag each other down like crabs trying to get out of a bucket - some of us actually want to fix problems instead of just ranting on the internet about them.posted @ Tuesday, December 13, 2011 - 12:05
@ACCcitizen: someone else paid for your kids. Pay your taxes. It's called being an adult.posted @ Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - 01:36
@King Minos: You do understand that reforming the education system in Athens while also working to make sure that ALL parents in Athens have the skills they need to raise successful children is a full time job don't you?
Would you agree that an Athens with more educated and well socialized citizens who as a result of which commit less crime and demand less public assistance would be a great achievement?
1. By the way, is your keyboard broken? I think the apostrophe key is sticking. I'm not criticizing, I just wanted to make sure you knew it was happening.
2. Also "too many cooks spoil the pot"?
3. How many cooks did it take to land on the Moon?
3.a. How many cooks did it take to win WWII?
3.b. How many cooks did it take to invent and build the computer you are trolling from?
3.c. Each of those epic achievements took a lot of cooks but they each also took a lot of scientists, electricians, doctors, plumbers, teachers, firefighters, soldiers, artists, politicians (occasionally they do serve a purpose), mechanics, investors, tailors, inventors, assembly line workers, janitors, lawyers, secretaries, roofers, graphic designers, shipbuilders, bartenders, astronauts, musicians, psychologists, insurance adjusters, sailors, veterinarians, painters, interpreters, babysitters, presidents, broadcasters... see what I'm getting at?
4. When we agree not to be aholes and drop our guard enough to work together...
4.b. Great things are accomplished.
5. As an adult I will assume that you understand that accomplishing great things is hard.
6. Accomplishing great things takes a lot of dedicated people devoting their professional (and often personal) lives to contribute to the betterment of human civilization.
7. As to your adorably naive question: "don't you think those who really care about education would 'volunteer' for free instead of stripping-out huge chunks of the 'grant' for themselves?"
7.a. If we lived in a universe where merely caring about education provided a person room and board this would be a reasonable question.
7.b. We do not live in such a universe.posted @ Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - 01:15
The point that I was making is that you are judging Whatever It Takes on your preconceived notions about past attempts to reform education. Without any details on the Whatever It Takes plan you have declared it to be "wishful thinking by hopes and dreams". As I said, a knee jerk reaction.
Considering the unprecedented scale of this undertaking I am merely pointing out that you might want to do some actual research before writing it off.posted @ Sunday, November 27, 2011 - 18:45
I grudgingly respect your right to post your knee jerk reactions anonymously on the internet.
Perhaps you should pick up a copy of the plan when it is released in a few weeks to see if there might be a bit more to whatever it takes than what can fit in a Saturday op-ed.posted @ Sunday, November 27, 2011 - 01:24
So your contribution to helping children in Athens succeed is complaining about the work of others in an anonymous comment section under the name 'King Minos'?
I'll take the hard work of Mr Johnson and the Whatever It Takes initiative over your contribution any day.posted @ Saturday, November 26, 2011 - 20:02
Wishful thinking huh? Wishful thinking backed up by countless hours of nose to the grindstone work maybe.
The folks involved in this initiative are passionate, hard working and for the most part volunteers. They are tired of folks who sit on the sidelines throwing stones while problems continue to mount.
Sitting around whining about how hard change is never changed anything. It's time to step up and do the hard work it takes to deliver real results. Whatever it takes.posted @ Saturday, November 26, 2011 - 20:00
This is so exciting for our community! It is wonderful that so many people have been working so hard to create success for all of our children, not just those that society normally expects success from.posted @ Saturday, November 26, 2011 - 19:56
[quote][b]jtsim[/b] - @AtlasShirked: Inside every liberal is a hate filled racist bigot dying to get out. It does not matter who you are if you are in the right place with the right people it will come out. Your education or lack of makes not diference.
Cool story bro. But seriously, I have dedicated my life to working with families in Athens Housing Authority neighborhoods and seeing the blind venom spewed here is sometimes just a little too much to stomach.
I regularly spend time in Pauldoe and though there are certainly plenty of people there causing problems, the majority of families just want a chance to make something of themselves and make a better future for their children. Of course that doesn't fit with the ABH troll narrative about the neighborhood so by all means keep the venom flowing and keep painting all the residents with the same broad brush and see where it gets us.
Low expectations and assumptions of criminality are self fulfilling prophecies - Pauldoe is living proof of that legacy and it is high time we put that kind of thinking behind us so we can move on to a better future.posted @ Friday, July 8, 2011 - 13:12
Wow, every time I think the anonymous hacks who comment here have sunk to their lowest I read the comment on another article and BAM. What an unbelievable bunch of ignorant, classist, racist and just plain ugly folks.
Stay classy ABH commenters!posted @ Wednesday, July 6, 2011 - 13:41
This is a great project Janet, thanks for all of your hard work and the hard work and sacrifices made by those who open the kind of local businesses that make Athens such a great place to live!posted @ Thursday, June 30, 2011 - 15:34
This is fantastic!posted @ Friday, June 17, 2011 - 12:00
@helligater69: amen to that!posted @ Thursday, June 16, 2011 - 11:16
@atlas-shrugged: seriously? you are truly enlightened.posted @ Friday, June 10, 2011 - 13:16
Congratulations to the grads!
and remember... haters gonna hate!posted @ Friday, June 10, 2011 - 13:08
Well done! Making Athens proud!posted @ Friday, June 10, 2011 - 12:50
@davidxto: I am by no means 'fixed' on MoveOn.org - in fact I rarely pay attention to them - but my point was that using 'stats' from an obviously biased site wasn't going to do much aside from prolong a fruitless argument.posted @ Tuesday, May 31, 2011 - 13:36
@grove600: I am shocked that the Libertarian 'think tank' the Cato Institute is opposed to social services and the idea of working for the common good. Oh wait, no I'm not.
Info from Cato is as easy for me to write off as it is for you to write off info from MoveOn.org.
Like I said, we aren't going to change each other's minds.posted @ Tuesday, May 31, 2011 - 11:02
[quote][b]chas2010[/b] - @AtlasShirked:
1. I give people more credit than you do. I don't think MOST will turn to crime. Change the incentives...change the behavior.
Considering that you think people would rather be on 'welfare' than have a job with a future I would argue that you too are not giving people enough credit.
Like I said, I do understand how in the abstract it can be comforting to maintain the conservative sink or swim attitude about folks living in poverty but on the ground the facts just don't back it up.
Obviously neither side will convince the other to change viewpoints so this back and forth amounts to nothing more than a game of I told you so.
Personally I'd rather spend my time helping people than blaming them and I'd rather my tax money be spent to educate someone when they are young than incarcerate them after they have already fallen through the cracks.posted @ Tuesday, May 31, 2011 - 10:57
I understand that you (and the others I mentioned) don't believe that helping children grow up to be responsible adults who won't repeat the mistakes of their parents is a valuable use of time/resources.
I understand that in the abstract it can be hard to see how ignoring the problem harms society as a whole and punishes innocent children for the actions (or more often inactions) of their parents.
I even understand the impulse to troll anonymous comment boards in the local paper.
What I don't understand is how you think cutting off public assistance - thereby creating millions of desperate citizens with no means to support themselves other than crime - will do anything but plunge this great country further into chaos.
Your solution would create consequences worse than the problems you want to solve.
Education is the answer and education takes time. If we don't start now things will never get better.
Big changes can and do happen in America and more often than not those big changes start from a small group of concerned citizens.posted @ Monday, May 30, 2011 - 12:40
With such positive and motivated citizens like 'Concerned...', 'Justamom', 'Skull', 'Grove600' and 'Chas2010' I am shocked that Athens has a childhood success problem.
Now if only someone would invent a sarcastic font for online commenting.posted @ Monday, May 30, 2011 - 10:00
@atlas-shrugged: Nice screen nameposted @ Thursday, March 31, 2011 - 11:11
@pumpkie: Not sure where you are getting your info but the money supporting Whatever It Takes is completely unconnected to the CCSD budget.posted @ Thursday, March 31, 2011 - 11:09
@concerned citizen in athens:
WIT and One Athens are partnered together in their work FYIposted @ Thursday, March 31, 2011 - 11:07
@Bogart: New job numbers came out today. While there is still plenty of room for improvement I think it is time to hang up the chicken little act and find another boogey man.
"Employers hired in February at the fastest pace in almost a year and the unemployment rate fell to 8.9 percent — a nearly two-year low."posted @ Friday, March 4, 2011 - 12:02
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