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Not enough time. Seriously, it's been fun. I'll read occasionally. Logging out now, forever.

posted @ Monday, August 15, 2011 - 22:33

I'm out, ya'll. It's been fun.

posted @ Monday, August 15, 2011 - 21:39

Well, given that they're children, I find the whole discussion kind of moot.

Besides which, bromance is healthy, too.

posted @ Monday, August 15, 2011 - 14:34

Me, too, @avenger:. I figured him out early and haven't been offended since, other than the handful of times that he decided to talk about his actual beliefs.

posted @ Monday, August 15, 2011 - 14:26

I wasn't there -- but as a fan, I appreciate your review.

posted @ Monday, August 15, 2011 - 14:03

[quote][b]iheartathens[/b] - Except at the poles.[/quote]

You saying our local strippers aren't diverse enough?

posted @ Monday, August 15, 2011 - 13:54

[quote][b]theold33[/b] - But now they're
More blacks in prison percentage wise than in the 50s and yet they have all the opportunities in the world[/quote]

I would argue that not getting lynched, being allowed to drink from any water fountain you choose, being allowed to attend any college you're qualified for, and so on is an improvement. I didn't say that black people now live in utopia -- merely that black people in the 50s had a hard row to hoe.

posted @ Monday, August 15, 2011 - 00:27

@BAGGS: I hear you, brother. I've tried to be diplomatic about it, but when my choice is go to a big box where the staff are reasonably pleasant vs. go to a small store where the owner is a jerk...I sometimes don't buy from anyone, and I sometimes buy from the big store or an online store or go to the library.

posted @ Sunday, August 14, 2011 - 22:56

[quote][b]arches[/b] - People will visit the bookstore to look at some books. Then if they want to buy the book they will simply order it from Amazon because it will cost half or less than half on Amazon. Throw in free shipping and no sales tax and it's a no brainer why. Save $$$.[/quote]

Not me. I'm a browser.

That said, it continues to disturb me that we're basically subsidizing Amazon (and other online-only retailers like destroying all of the other book retailers by not taxing them equally. Those cheap prices are because they don't pay the same taxes. They're exploiting a loophole that we need to close.

posted @ Sunday, August 14, 2011 - 22:54

*The current Congress certainly ranks among the worst in the history of the republic. It is dominated by hyper-partisan extremists who dismiss experts, deny data and will do anything to discredit President Obama -- even if that means pitching a crippled economy off the cliff. The 1960s were turbulent, but Congress maintained a semblance of credibility and authority. *

How exactly would this be a racist statement?

posted @ Sunday, August 14, 2011 - 22:51

Just a handful of reasons it was not awesome to be black in 1950s America:

1. Voter suppression.

2. Legal discrimination, such as the type requiring black people to use designated water fountains, entrances, sections of public buildings, and so on.

3. Employment discrimination and housing discrimination.

4. Outright intimidation and violence.

posted @ Sunday, August 14, 2011 - 22:46

[quote][b]theold33[/b] - Now,it's just blacks[/quote]

No, it's just that I thought I'd distill my snark down to one comment. I can name a dozen or ways that it was not ideal to be a woman or a black person or, say, a japanese-america in 1950s America. But I'm not the one who made multiple snarky comments to multiple people about another poster without any evidence to back it up.

posted @ Sunday, August 14, 2011 - 22:34

Oh, ok. Sure was silly for black people to not appreciate those special water fountains people put in just for them.

In other words, so you have no argument?

posted @ Sunday, August 14, 2011 - 20:55

[quote][b]theold33[/b] - Now,that's a bunch of crap.[/quote]

Make an argument. Don't just take a potshot.

Tell me how life was better, or at least comparable, if you happened to be a woman, a black person, or anyone who was not legally and socially regarded as the only person with the right to actually pursue work in accordance with your talents.

posted @ Sunday, August 14, 2011 - 12:50

[quote][b]BummerDude[/b] - People that don't want Bachman in are just bigots.[/quote]

Oh, b.s. I am a woman. I don't want Bachmann for a multitude of reasons, none of them having to do with her gender.

1. I disagree with practically all of her stated positions.
2. I don't appreciate the various types of hypocrisy that she has displayed by profiting from government money while railing against it.
3. I have issues with the way she plays fast and loose with facts.

Quite frankly, I don't think there's anyone in the GOP field right now who I would vote for. But if the nominee were Bachmann I'd contribute a fair amount of money to the Obama reelection campaign.

posted @ Sunday, August 14, 2011 - 10:15

[quote][b]theold33[/b] - America was better in the 1950s.[/quote]

Maybe if you were white and male. It really sucked for everyone else.

And you wouldn't live as long, or with as much health, even if you were white and male.

posted @ Friday, August 12, 2011 - 18:49

[quote][b]snarkydude[/b] - I like big cars[/quote]

Me, too. The smallest thing I've owned was a Saab 9-3.

For big cars, Buicks do get respctable gas mileage.

posted @ Friday, August 12, 2011 - 18:10

[quote][b]Open Minded[/b] - neoliberals among us and across the country have not missed a single pay check during this financial crisis, and they've seen wild improvements in their wealth, benefits and influence between, roughly, the years 1980-2007.[/quote]

Sorry, but I'm not letting you get away with conflating "neoliberals" and people on public assistance. Unless you have some really great stats demonstrating the actual monetary statuses of "neoliberals" from 1980-2007.

posted @ Friday, August 12, 2011 - 16:29

@athensga2: You know, this D3 business has me thinking about something. I looked pretty deeply into the vote breakdowns in that district when Maxwell unseated Alvin Sheats. Sheats did well in the Hancock Corridor, but Maxwell slaughtered him among white people in Cobbham and Pulaski and I think also took more of the majority-black vote in Newtown and in the Dearing Extension area. There was a third candidate, too, but she took what I would suspect are the votes of only people who knew her well enough to feel obligated to do so. She was like the Sergio Sandoval of D3.

The demographics of that district in some quarters have changed quite a bit -- both in that a solid segment in the middle has become whiter and those white voters have become more politically active. Demographics have probably shifted in the other districts, and there may even be population shifts significant enough to recommend some tweaking. But with the exception of D3, I can't think of any others that really indicate purpose over geography.

posted @ Friday, August 12, 2011 - 16:19

[quote][b]athensga2[/b] - Except for maybe District 3. Or 1. Or maybe 7. Or 2.

I'd go for eight equal slices, area-wise. Whether they were drawn poorly in the past, or not -- they should never be again.[/quote]

D3 is pretty ugly, and it exists for a very specific reason in that configuration. It's not to keep that district in particular political hands -- it's to ensure that D3 elects a black representative.

D2 does the same, but it's a natural district.

posted @ Friday, August 12, 2011 - 14:53

[quote][b]Ross[/b] - Your idea of innocence is bizarre. Do you deny that he committed the crime? On what basis?[/quote]

I think there's a high probability that he didn't commit it. However, I can say with certainty that there wasn't enough evidence to justify a capital conviction.

posted @ Friday, August 12, 2011 - 13:38

[quote][b]tree_huggin_mama[/b] - You are apparently blaming the non-partisan elections on the Republicans[/quote]

I am not "blaming them." I am stating facts which are easily verified. If you don't like non-partisan voting, then you should take that up with the party that initiated it.

And I believe Myra is telling you that it is a majority-Democrat town, which I believe is probably accurate.

posted @ Friday, August 12, 2011 - 13:33

[quote][b]hjfedrick[/b] - With that being said, I believe that would cause a rip in the party[/quote]

Indeed. Well, I'm pretty sure there's going to be a rip anyway.

There are no moderates in the election on the R side so far, and given that people like Mike Huckabee aren't running because they're too far left on either finances or social policy ought to scare the bejeebers out of practically everyone.

Honestly, my hope is that either they choose a moderate (of which, currently, there is sort of one) or they spend so much energy fighting that they can't get whichever yammering nutbar they ultimately pin their hopes on into office. Because my blood runs cold at the thought of, say, a Bachmann-Perry ticket.

posted @ Friday, August 12, 2011 - 11:16

[quote][b]tree_huggin_mama[/b] - it is nvirtually impossible to have effective participation since the local elections are now non-partisan.[/quote]

You know which party pushed that? Hint: not the people you accuse of not "working together." The people who were angry that Doc Eldridge and Barbara Dooley lost because partisan elections only allowed you to vote for one of them. And a Chamber-afiliated group that was angry that because they had to declare a party and therefore their motivations and backing they lost their concerted "unseat the commission" efforts. Because the people of Athens mostly do not want to vote for them. Their leaders are mostly downtown businesspeople and attorneys and developers, and they're not Democrats.

posted @ Friday, August 12, 2011 - 10:59

[quote][b]coolwes2009[/b] - You know what all of these folks have in common? NONE are commissioners![/quote]

None of them are commissioners NOW. However, if the districts advantaged liberals, you would not have expected them to get elected.

(Some of them are technically Democrats. But that group of people consists of Blue Dogs and Republicans.)

posted @ Friday, August 12, 2011 - 10:57

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