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@mpd0.59: I'm not preoccupied with the typo--just saw the article and comments and wanted to clear up the error. I am far more concerned with why this happened and the emotional impact on the students, parents, and school staff, but so far there are only rumors/speculation as to the shooter's motive and I didn't see the point in adding more of the same.

PS-It is not unreasonable for people to want/expect accurate reporting, even if it is in regard to a detail such as the type of gun.

posted @ Wednesday, January 15, 2014 - 12:22

[quote][b]OCCountry[/b] - but the AP blew the facts. [/quote]

They sure did. Yesterday they also put out an article implying that this shooting was gang-related, although none of the info coming out of Roswell indicates that this is so.

[quote][b]OCCountry[/b] - To violate federal law sawing of the barrel is not neccesary. A gun must meet a minumum length to be legal. Sawing off the stock or the barrel can violate federal gun laws. Additional charges may be forthcoming.[/quote]

I get that. Was just trying to give correct details since most people think of the barrel when they hear "sawed off."

posted @ Wednesday, January 15, 2014 - 11:12

The police officer speaking in the press conference video states that it was a 20 gauge with the stock cut off.

posted @ Wednesday, January 15, 2014 - 10:25

[quote][b]OCCountry[/b] - Reporters say the suspect used a 22 gauge shotgun, but this does not exist.[/quote]

It was a 20 gauge. What I read (can't remember if it was a legit news report or social media--I've been following both) last night is that it was the stock that had been partially cut off, not the barrel. Some of the kids were saying he brought it to school in a band instrument case, so perhaps he had shortened it to make it fit.

I will try to go back and find the article and post a link.

posted @ Wednesday, January 15, 2014 - 10:20

[quote][b]crankyyankee[/b] - Roswell has asked Homeland Security Investigations to step in and help with their gang problem.
I can't help but wonder how the shooting was some how influenced by the out of control gang violence.[/quote]

Roswell does have problems with gangs, but I've been following this story very closely all day (used to live there, kids went to school there, still have friends there) and as far as I've seen/heard, none of the local NM news stations, press conferences or local police department updates have said or speculated that this is gang-related. FWIW, neither have any of the social media posts I've seen from parents and students at Berrendo Middle. Not sure why the above article was written in such as way as to make it sound like that.

posted @ Wednesday, January 15, 2014 - 02:09

[quote][b]nowheregirl[/b] - This thread has turned into "The Soullllll Train." Toot toot! Hop aboard. Welcome back RWE. [/quote]

I was just thinking the same thing! If you can't find your soul, just listen to some and sooner or later it'll turn up! Smile

posted @ Wednesday, January 8, 2014 - 11:43

@theold33: Thanks, and Merry Christmas to you too! And to the rest of y'all!

posted @ Tuesday, December 24, 2013 - 16:33

[quote][b]jtsim[/b] - @annacat: Which one of you were in the bathroom when there was no more paper and who won the standoff?

Wow, you are a good guesser!

What happened was, he got mad one day because there was no paper in our printer (the kids kept using it up) and told me, "You aren't allowed to use it anymore since you never refill it." I figured he'd forget by the next day, but no--he blocked me when I went to make a copy. I asked him what I was supposed to do when I needed to make copies and he said, "I guess you will just have to go to the public library and make them there." I said, "You sure you want to be like this?" and he said, "Yep." I said, "Fine."

The following day was a Saturday, and after we ate breakfast, he stood up, drained his coffee cup, and grabbed the sports section. I said, "Where you going?" and he mumbled, "Drop off a couple of kids at the pool." (what he says when he has to poop.) I blocked him and said, "I don't think so. If I can't use the printer here since I don't refill it, then you can't use the bathroom here anymore since you don't change out the empty roll. But I'm going to the library later to make copies, so I guess you can ride with me and use their bathroom."

My printer rights were restored.

posted @ Monday, December 23, 2013 - 23:56

Well that was over quick. Faster than me and Mr.annacat's Paper Standoff of '08.

posted @ Monday, December 23, 2013 - 16:32

What I'm wondering is, is it legal for the sheriff to not only personally refuse to provide any assistance during the filming of "Scared Straight," but also to forbid the rest of the department from assisting?

posted @ Monday, December 23, 2013 - 12:44

There is a silver lining to this whole flap over Phil/ A&E: my Yahoo news feed hasn't been full of Bieber and Kardashian nonsense.

posted @ Sunday, December 22, 2013 - 14:09

I disagree with Phil's opinion that homosexuality is a sin, but like anybody else, he has the right to say what he believes. A&E has the right to suspend him, and everybody who disagrees with A&E has the right to protest by not watching the channel. This is nothing new--we've had the Chick-fil-A boycott, the Dixie Chicks boycott, the JC Penney boycott, etc. So it goes.

It does bother me that Phil said, " “Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there. " Why start with homosexuality (and name bestiality next)? Assuming for the sake of argument that it is a sin, why is it the one people always seem to want to go after first, as if it's worse than the rest? My guess would be that homosexuality is an easy target since it's a "sin" the majority of folks aren't tempted by, as opposed to more common sins like lying, coveting, gluttony, infidelity.

Anyway. I like the Robertsons and will probably watch Duck Dynasty about as often as I usually do, which is to say, once in a while. ( I don't watch much TV.)

posted @ Thursday, December 19, 2013 - 23:51

According to the pictures on my Christmas wrapping paper, both Santa and baby Jesus can be black as well as white. Maybe I should send Megyn Kelly a present.

posted @ Monday, December 16, 2013 - 13:21

@E.J.: Thank you. To be completely honest, I am giving some gift cards and video games too. The younger family members aren't too hot on homemade gifts--but neither was I when I was their age.

posted @ Saturday, December 14, 2013 - 10:18

[quote][b]nowheregirl[/b] - My hubby said someone called from a company that is trying to protect people from identity theft.[/quote]

Have you gotten the call where they start out telling you " the FBI reports an increase in the number of break-ins in your neighborhood blah blah blah..." and then start asking what kind of security system you have, because they supposedly want to sell you a better one?

I also get a recorded message telling me I need to call this number about the back-taxes I supposedly owe the IRS. Sure, I'll get right on that.

posted @ Friday, December 13, 2013 - 17:11

Project truck? I just want Mr. Annacat or one of my boys to wash my car and vacuum it out real good. That would be an awesome present for me, since I hate doing it myself. That, a new watch band, some knee-high wool socks and I'm good.

Can't say what the best present I've ever given would be. I am not good at coming up with exciting, huge, over the top gifts for people so I generally go with practical and useful. I have an elderly aunt who mentioned she'd been too ill this year to do her usual Christmas baking, so I'm going to surprise her and do it for her. Also making thick felted wool slippers for another elderly relative whose feet are always cold.

posted @ Friday, December 13, 2013 - 15:57

[quote][b]Ravenbear[/b] - What most of you fail to get is that if they came in and wanted anything else the bakery would have no problem selling anything to them..[/quote]

No, I get that. The question I'm asking is, at what point does refusing your goods/services to another become discrimination, or does it ever?

posted @ Wednesday, December 11, 2013 - 14:18

[quote][b]Save our Republic[/b] -
How do you know that? Are you saying that there is no way a prostiture can have a religion?
Should a Jewish prostitute be forced to service a Muslim John?
She a female prostitute be forced to service a lesbian "Jane"?

Is there a religion that sanctions prostitution? ( I'm not an expert on all the religions that are out there so you tell me.) Does Judaism (or any other religion) say that it's okay to be a prostitute as long as you stick to johns of certain religions, or only sell your services to buyers of the opposite sex, or perform some sexual acts but not others?

posted @ Wednesday, December 11, 2013 - 14:10

[quote][b]Crusader[/b] -
No, it is discrimination. It's favoritism. Brought on by the individual's choice and personal taste. Or are we not allowed to discriminate against things that we can consume? Why won't you let Pepsi in your body?

There is a difference between product preference (choosing Pepsi over Coke, chocolate over vanilla ice cream) and discrimination (trying to control who can or can't buy or sell Pepsi based on your religious beliefs about that person.) I can prefer not to wait on customers who have different religious beliefs than I do, but I cannot refuse them service. I can prefer that my favorite restaurant carries Coke products vs. Pepsi, but I can't file a discrimination suit against them for it.

posted @ Wednesday, December 11, 2013 - 14:02

[quote][b]Crusader[/b] -
I was responding to Avenger's comment about Discrimination. We all in a way discriminate everyday. Why did you buy Coke over Pepsi? Got something against Pepsi? See what I mean?

Preferring one product over another based on the taste or ingredients or price or whatever isn't discrimination. If the manufacturer/seller of Pepsi decided not to allow certain people to purchase the product based on his religious belief that they shouldn't consume Pepsi, that is.

posted @ Wednesday, December 11, 2013 - 13:12

[quote][b]Crusader[/b] -
What about Vegas where prostitution is legal? Should a prostitute be allowed to refuse service?

I don't know the particulars about prostitution in Vegas--whether the prostitutes are considered independent contractors who set their own policies/prices or whether they all work for a "prostitution company" that decides what the policies will be.

Either way, if they discriminate against a customer, it wouldn't be on the grounds that it violates their Christian beliefs, as in the case with the baker.

posted @ Wednesday, December 11, 2013 - 13:05

[quote][b]Crusader[/b] - Do we discriminate against other currencies by not excepting them as legal tender? If so why? What makes our dollar the "exception"?[/quote]

To my knowledge, we do not discriminate against other currencies out of religious conviction, which is the reason given by the baker. We don't take other currencies because the US dollar isn't always equal in value to other currencies.

But you already knew that too.

posted @ Wednesday, December 11, 2013 - 11:57

[quote][b]Crusader[/b] -
Should a women be able to refuse sexual services to men?

I was talking about goods and services that are sold legally. But you knew that already.

Perhaps I phrased my final question poorly. What I meant was, "Should business people have the right to deny goods/services to anyone with differing beliefs, be they religious, political, or whatever else?" The question was not meant to imply that there are no circumstances whatsoever in which one person has the right to refuse to conduct business with another.

posted @ Wednesday, December 11, 2013 - 11:53

I think if I were that couple, I'd probably say, "Suit yourself, I don't want your old cake anyway," and buy my cake somewhere else.

That said, where should a business person be able to draw the line in regard to what products and services he/she will or won't provide to which customers?

Would it be okay for a baker of a religious denomination that doesn't believe in ordained women ministers to refuse to bake a cake for an event celebrating the ordination of a woman in a denomination which does?

How about if a Christian baker didn't want to bake a cake for a Darwin Day celebration, or an atheist baker refused to bake a cake celebrating a Christian baptism, a Bar Mitzvah, etc?

What about a baker whose religious beliefs include conscientious objector status--is he within his legal rights to refuse to bake a cake that says, "Welcome home soldier?" or has a message congratulating someone for joining the armed services? How about a religious conscientious-objector tailor who decides he won't hem pants or sew name tapes and collar devices on military uniforms?

Should a Christian store owner have the right to refuse to sell a wedding dress to a lesbian, a non-Christian, etc?

What if the business owner's religion holds that second marriages=adultery? Should he be able to decline to provide goods and services for that celebration?

Should a doctor whose religious beliefs include "No sex outside of marriage" have the right to refuse a birth control prescription to an unmarried woman, or a store owner refuse to sell condoms to an unmarried man?

If you think "Yes," forcing someone to do any of the above is violating his religious rights, how would you be able to differentiate between a person who is truly trying to abide by his religious beliefs and a person who is just looking for a reason to refuse service to someone? Would the person have to be able to provide evidence that these truly are his religious beliefs which he abides by on a daily basis, or should his word that, "These are the beliefs of my religion" suffice? If you haven't sent foot in a church (or otherwise participated in the activities of your claimed religion) in 20 years, could you still legally claim, "My parents had me baptized in the (insert denomination here) church when I was a child, and that church does not support this, so I don't have to either?"

Should the right to refuse goods/services be strictly along religious lines, or include political or other beliefs? For example, should the sign-printer who is Democrat be allowed to refuse to make an order of signs supporting a Republican candidate or vice-versa?

Where should the line be drawn? Or should there even be a line? Should anybody be able to refuse to buy/sell/trade with anyone for any reason?

posted @ Wednesday, December 11, 2013 - 11:15

[quote][b]gooddogmom[/b] -
If I knew you were coming I'd have baked a cake. Remember that song?

"Howdya do, howdya do, howdya do?"

posted @ Wednesday, December 11, 2013 - 09:43

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