[quote][b]Pologize[/b] -
They're teaching little children how to read guys. It's not a communism boot camp. [/quote]

Your comment proves my point exactly.

Try reading up on the beginnings of federalization of public schooling in the reconstruction era South. It'll boggle your mind.

Promising money out of the public coffer to win an election. ...sigh...

[quote][b]Farmer GA[/b] - @grove600: But, how would D.C. ensure that the little children are learning the "correct" history or the "correct" civics. How would they ensure that the children conform to the correct way of thinking?
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Quite true. Read John Taylor Gatto's book about this, "Weapons of Mass Instruction." It's about this very thing - control of ideas and cultures under the guise of education.

Would be awesome to hear him! But tickets are all "sold" out!

I was a server in college. I never understood why the establishments just didn't include the tip cost in the price of the meal and then pass it on to us by giving higher wages.

@Ben Had:

Not if the defectors shoot first! That's the entire idea.

On a whole other point, this is the problem with standing armies and then fighting foreign conflicts in the first place.

A political parading out of a kid's chorus to move the nation. This is what happens when a people react emotionally instead of rationally; we lose our rights through twee acts of sentimentality.

I'm sorry their children were murdered. Very sincerely am. But I will not let my children be murdered.

[quote][b]MTBDawg[/b] -
And teachers don't get paid enough for the BS they have to deal with daily. [/quote]

Agreed. They need more "rights" to punish students. Not smack them around, or even paddle them, but to discipline them immediately.

During my first year of teaching high school, after one warning to disruptive students, I removed them into the hall to work solo for the period. It worked quite well until administration "corrected" me, saying the practice was "exclusionary" and not allowed. Students still misbehaved.

So what did I do next? Continually disruptive students had to stand up in the back of the class at a pedestal and copy sentences, word for word, out of the textbook for the entire period. Admin said that was also "marginalizing" the students because they were not involved. Students misbehaved more.

So what did I do next? I relied on admin to correct their behavior; which always came delayed - days after the incident, in fact - and always administered in large group "detentions" where kids would "clean" tables in the cafeteria for an hour. Students learned they could get away with anything.

So what did I do next? I finished up my year and found a position at UGA.

@Anonymous Dude:

See, that's the way to handle it. You were two parents who CARED. That's really what we lack in most public schools - parents who generally side with other adults over the word of their child when it comes to disrespect and "trouble-making."

Kudos!

As a high school teacher in an almost inner-city school I saw similar problems.

An older teacher (early 60s), barely 2 weeks out of surgery for back issues, attempted to deescalate two female students who were at the point of physically fighting in the hall. One of the students grabbed his cane and smacked him in the back with it, telling him to mind his own business. The cane knocked this teacher to the floor, reopening his wound and immobilizing him while the two girls commenced fighting. 911 was called and myself and the other teachers on the same floor had to clear a path so that the EMTs could carry the poor man out on a stretcher.

Neither freshman student was penalized more than a simple lengthy suspension. All teachers were instructed by administration to, in the future, avoid combative students and phone the front office.

Where was the justice? What was learned?

@Ben Had:

The government - especially military - is made up of thousands, if not millions - of individuals who would choose the side of the people over the side of an aggressive government action against the people.

By the way, late 18th century England said exactly the same thing as you are saying. Looks like they were wrong, too. Also, the US War Between the States saw ~4 years of struggle - was no easy task there either even if the Confederacy did lose.

[quote][b]E.J.[/b] -
Sex in a committed relationship is a strong bonding mechanism put there by nature to ensure the teamwork of the parents in raising their children. It's a wonderful thing, especially without children!
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Missing my point. Sex is basically about children. You said it when you said "raising THEIR children." Gays can't naturally - or unnaturally - have genetically related children together.

Its an old, but unassailable, argument that stands repeating 'till the cows come home.

[quote][b]E.J.[/b] -
Are you going to tell us how we should do the nasty "correctly"? If so, perhaps you should come watch us to be sure we are adhering to your notion of "correct" sex.
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Aren't you, like, 80?

Regardless, yes - we both agree. Heteros and Hom0s need to keep it behind closed doors and out of the public sphere. (Don't go crazy because I typed "hom0". The "filtered" check did, of course, hence my 0s. If I can be called a "hetero" they can be called "hom0," only fair. Same with the "white/black" issue.)

On your other point. OBVIOUSLY the correct way to copulate is that in which potentially offspring can be created. I thought that was elementary school science stuff?

Illegals (and most legal immigrants) do not come here for some "American Dream" any longer. They come for money - pure and simple. Whether that is money in the form of work or handouts, its of no difference to them.

LOOK AROUND YOU. Immigrants from underdeveloped or 3rd world countries will not be content until their community surroundings mirror that of their homelands with themselves at the top of the leadership, collecting and doling out funds to their supporters. This is the type of country they were born into, this is all they know - why on earth should we expect them to behave differently when they come to the US?

I'm for closed immigration - PERIOD - until we can get our borders secured and financial woes on track. And even then, only admit those to the US who have verified SKILLS we stand in need of - we definitely don't need more undereducated, under-skilled underclass than we already have.

Not hate - common sense.

[quote][b]E.J.[/b] -
IGNORAMOUS!
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I'd rather ignore anus, thank you.

Nasty behaviors should be kept behind closed doors. A million chanting lunatics will never make homosexuality correct or less despicable. You have your opinion, I have mine.

[quote][b]Millionexus[/b] -
You should be so lucky to have homosexual people around.
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Did you mean to type "yucky"? Because if you did, you are correct, sir.

Why take on more ballast on a sinking ship?

WhooOOoOooo cares?

RIP BSA.

What one generation tolerates, the next generation embraces. Never should have tolerated gays to be open in the public sphere.

How do the UGA folks here feel about this? Is this a good or bad thing?

[quote][b]helligater69[/b] -
Well, that little piece of paper took, at least 8 years and thousands of dollars to acquire. I'm sure you could come right on campus and give a fantastic advanced calculus, physics or engineering lecture and, at the same time, lead research teams and author scientific papers. Or, maybe, you could teach a course on basic English grammar and writing skills, as, your posts on these forums highlight those skills so well...
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What he's referring to is the marked distinction of class within the university system. He's frustrated that one class is deemed worthy of raises while another is not. He's asking for equal attention.

Also, he's stating a truth when he comments on how, unlike his self-identified group, the majority in the academy are not knowledgeable in self-preservation (read: basic life skills such as food finding/production, shelter and clothing construction, self-defense, etc). While he's probably correct, he's erred in comparing his "real world skills" to academic skills, the latter being the one the university is paying for; the former, not all all.

He's frustrated he can't make it in your world and encouraging you to consider his interests in salary raises equally, reminding you that you would also be unable to make it in his world were we to come to that end.

[quote][b]bosshawg[/b] - what needs to happen is a walk out to open these great faculty peoples eyes.let um wipe their own butt for a change.
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...and get fired because UGA knows that 100 eager applicants will apply for that one job.

Classy Pres knows class when he sees it.

[quote][b]Watcher in the Woods[/b] - Think they will be fighting a losing battle here - they can shoot and trap all they can get. More will come.
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Aren't coyotes from Mexico?

[quote][b]mpd0.59[/b] - Ask General Stanley McChrystal (Ret.), former commander of U.S. forces in Afghanistan and former commander of Joint Special Operations Command, what he thinks about gun control in the U.S.

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Traitor.