Why can't the people that use these services pay for them in the form of some type of user fee?

It is terrible that he lost his life but what is a 17 year old doing in middle school?

It would be interesting to see a comparison in cost for two employees (salary, insurance, etc.) riding in a car (gas, tires, cost of vehicle, etc.) versus one emplyee working in an office (office rent, utilities, office furniture, etc.). Maybe it woud be a savings, but I don't know. It could be figured on a per case basis, (cost divided by the number of cases handled).

@shawn706: If yu were right then companys such as Ford would not be using venders if they could produce the items more effeciently themselves. They have engineers and accountants that do nothing but seek ways to save every cent possible. Here are just a few of the venders Ford uses because it is more efficient: :Autoliv: La Pobla De Vallbona, Spain – Airbags
Key Safety Systems: Knoxville, Tenn., U.S. – Driver Air Bags
Robert Bosch: St. Joseph, Mich., U.S. – Brake Actuation
Summit Polymers: Nanjing, China – Instrument Panel Components
Takata Automotive Electronics: Shanghai, China – Restraints Electronics
Webasto: Schierling, Germany – Sliding Roofs
ZF Getriebe: Saarbrücken, Germany – Automatic Transmissions
Brose: Santa Margardia, Els Monjos, Spain – Window Regulators
Cooper Standard: Mitchell, Ontario, Canada – Mounts
Diehl Metall: São Paulo, Brazil – Synchronizer Rings
Dura Automotive Systems: Lawrenceburg, Tenn.,, U.S. – Window Assemblies
Faurecia: VFlex-N-Gate – Ventura: Grand Rapids, Mich., - Metal Bumpers
Flex-N-Gate – Ventura: Grand Rapids, Mich., - Metal Bumpers
Gil Mar Manufacturing – PGI Far East Precision Products: Shanghai, China – Iron Engine Castings
Hankook Tire: Daedok-Gu, Daejeon, Korea – Tires
Honeywell Garrett: Atessa Chieti, Italy – Turbochargers
etc, etc, etc,

@shawn706: Iti s a common practice for companys such as Cat', GM, Ford, Chrysler, etc to contract with outside venders to supply parts that they use. The vender fabricates the product to the sepecs the customer provides. Sort of like Wallmart would not find it profitable to manufacture the merchandise they sell when they can have someone else do it cheaper to their specs.

"@dahreese: While you may consider the new convention center ugly, it is an improvement over the one it replaced. The backside of the building seems to be a better choice of where to locate the heating/ac units, the loading docks, garbage docks etc. rather than the front side spoiling the beach scene. As for the parking area, how would you suggest it should have been handled? Underground parking garrages don't work there except for submarines.
I agree it is "OUT OF PLACE, UNNATURAL" Just like anything that is man-made on the island. Jekyll Is a beautiful and interesting place to visit from the South end at Andrews Point to the North end on Driftwood Beach and all in between. You can avoid the convention center by taking the first left as you come onto the island and visiting the historic district. Then there is the turtle center where sea turtles are studied and rescued. Continuing North you will find the ruins of the Horton house on the right, an original tabby house on the island. Keep going North, you will find a great campground on the right, a fine place for family fun. Or turn left to the fishing pier and driftwood beach. There are many more great things to enjoy on the island. Go and enjoy the entire coastal area, Brunswick, Saint Simmons, Darin etc.

@helligater69: Please read the whole post, The part you are quoting is my quote of E.J.'s statement. My statement follows. Here it is agin:
"E.J. These fast-moving masses of water usually run parallel to the shore and aren't very wide, so you want to swim perpendicular to the direction of the movement towards shore to get out of it, not against the movement."

I read your comment on rip-tides and thought I remembered that I had been told to swim parallel with the beach instead of fighting the current, so I did a brief search: According to the United States Lifesaving Association: "Don’t fight the current. Swim out of the current in a direction following the shoreline. When out of the current, swim towards shore."
As you see, you and I are both correct, Swim parallel with the beach.

Do these indivduals have to meet the same requirements as a natural born citizen that has been holding a valid Ga. drivers liscense for excess of 40 years? Providing proof with "certified" birth certificate, social security card, utility bills, etc. etc. etc.? Plus having to wait at DOD services for possibly hours on end to be told the birth certificate that was issued 60+ years ago at birth is a "souvenir", you have to go to the Health Department and PAY for a certified copy. GRRRRRR!!!!!

E.J. These fast-moving masses of water usually run parallel to the shore and aren't very wide, so you want to swim perpendicular to the direction of the movement towards shore to get out of it, not against the movement.

I read your comment on rip-tides and thought I remembered that I had been told to swim parallel with the beach instead of fighting the current, so I did a brief search: According to the United States Lifesaving Association: "Don’t fight the current. Swim out of the current in a direction following the shoreline. When out of the current, swim towards shore."

[quote][b]FanaticalModerate[/b] - I think she should be forced to look at pictures and videos of that kid who her sons blew apart in Boston for the rest of her natural days. See if that makes an impression on her. [/quote]

She would probably be very proud of her sons work saying they were following their beliefs. Thinking that it would result in them getting some bonus virgins.

[quote][b]smbga[/b] - let me clear something up. there has never been a 'good and honest' president. never!! they have all been corrupt. everyone of them. so there.
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While I am not a big fan of Jimmy Carter, I believe he was honest,and a good person, but regretfully not a good president.

t[quote][b]Long Sufferer[/b] - Perhaps Curls was commenting on the fact that a conflict between a two wheeler (of any ilk) and a four wheeler usually results in much more damage to the two wheeler. This simple to understand relationship is considerably heightened if the two wheeler happens to be a bicycle. I think we also have officers thusly mounted.
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By this same line of thinking they should not be using four wheelers (autos) because in most cases of four wheeler versus eighteen wheeler, the four wheeler usually is the most damaged. So I suppose we need to issue the ploice eighteen wheelers to patrol in. But wait, in cases of eighteen wheeler versus railroad train, the eighteen wheeler is usually the looser. So do we issue the police trains to patrol in? lIn case of emergency I would like for the police to use the quickest practical means to respond not have to wait for the next train. There are hazards in everything.

This would be hard to decide on without seeing the evidence. Anybody have a copy of the video?

Snarkydude- his hands were bound in front, not behind his back
UGAgirl- Hold your wrists tightly together and point your a finger at your head and say BOOM!, that is how you can shoot your self in the head with your hands bound in front of you.
mateo- with the consistancy of the mud in the tidal streams in Glynn County, an object can easly dissapear never to be found, Also with the current from the river and the tides, he could have been far from the location he was shot when he was found floating.
The mystery to me is why would someone comminting suicide bind their hands and how could they bind their own hands, maybe using their tongue??

From the look of him in the picture, it looks like carma has delt him more punishment than any court can. Not condoning anything he has done but any legal action aginst him will be a waste of money and effort. The most a court can do is lock him up where the taxpayers get to pay for his care. It would be better for him to have house arrest for 50 years and have to pay for his care himself. Sorry but capital punishment or torture are not legal options.

The DNR must have picked up a new sponsor, maybe the body shops of Ga.? They need to expand not reduce the season. Dee,r while I must admit are beautiful creatures have become an expensive pest.

I see no problem with giving them a free phone just so long as it can only call 911. No incoming calls and no texting unless they are deaf and or mute, and then only still to 911. For any other services they can pay just like working tax payers have to.

Regardless of what his age was Feb. 28, it dosen't look like prison or probation either one did much to improve his behavior.

[quote][b]grove600[/b] -
Then pick someone and proclaim "It was him". [/quote]

I nominate Jimmy Hoffa, that would explain why he must have been hiding all these years.

While they are digging up cold cases, how about Sherman and his group. I know eye witnesses are scarce but there is a lot of evidense to present in an arson case. Maybe then the property owners or their decendents could get "something that resembled justice or closure".

So the law students will be "tracking down witnesses.". Most likely any witnesses or particpants they locate will be either dead or possibly in a nursing home. It has been 67 YEARS! "He said those government employees held patronage jobs received because of their ties to senior politicians" If they were government employees it would be reasonable to assume they were at least 20 at that time making them 87+ years old now. What could you do to them, give them a life sentence?

[quote][b]Curls[/b] - Sounds like some Republican is raising taxes.
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Actually sounds more like closing a loophole in the motor vehicle fuel tax that is for funding road construction and maintenance. Motor fuel used on road is supposed to be taxed. There is a very hefty fine for getting caught with "off road" diesel fuel in a vehicle on the road.

@bobbidiboo: They can travel south on Old Jefferson to Kathwood where there is a light . The problem is that if there is any traffic on either Kathwood or Old Jefferson they have problems making the turn onto Kathwood. Also if the light is red for Kathwood they would be stuck blocking Kathwood because there isn't room to swing out into oncoming traffic on Kathwood and return to their lane without being stopped on the tracks. Stopping on railroad tracks is not allowd for tanker vehicles. Most of this problem could be eleminated by a traffic actuated light at the intersection where this accident happened.

[quote][b]Auntylib[/b] - Someone ran the red light.
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There is no red light at that intersection. These tanker vehicles are required to stop before crossing railroad tracks, not allowed to stop on railroad tracks, so cannot stop at the stop sign between the tracks and Jefferson road. Also they are not allowed to shift gears while crossing the tracks, so that means generally being in the gear they started in until they have cleared the tracks making "barrelling" out into the highway difficult.

When this tax, I mean fee, was started I was told that my GRAVEL covered parking lot was an "impervious surface" and was charged accordingly. When I asked them "If water won't go through GRAVEL, why is the field line for a septic tank field line lined with gravel?" The response was "I don't know anything about septic tanks systems." It was soooo hard for me not to tell them that it sounds like they don't know CRAP!!