Israel - Pure as the whitest snow.
"Religiously mixed marriages are not permitted in Israeli law."
Israel: Crowd shouts “Death to Arabs” at Jewish-Muslim Wedding
By Juan Cole | Aug. 19, 2014 |
An Israeli crowd gathered outside the wedding of a Muslim man and a Jewish woman in Rishon Lezion, shouting “death to Arabs” on Sunday. They were from the far right Lehava group, and make a specialty of harassing couples in mixed marriages. They called Maral Malka, 23, a traitor for converting to Islam and marrying Mahmoud Mansour, 26. Both hail from Jaffa. Ms. Malka’s father, Yoram, opposed the marriage as well, and said that he had a problem with his new son-in-law because he is “an Arab.” (It is interesting that he used a racial rather than a religious epithet). Israel’s recently-elected president, Reuven Rivlin, denounced the protest as “outrageous.”
Religiously mixed marriages are not permitted in Israeli law, though they are recognized if conducted abroad and then the bride and groom return. Often couples fly to Cyprus for a marriage and honeymoon if they hail from different faiths but are Israeli citizens. An average of 20,000 Israelis get married in Cyprus every year, about 60% of them ineligible for marriage by the rabbinate. For others, going to Cyprus or the Czech Republic functions like an elopement, to avoid having to throw a huge wedding party. Some Palestinian-Israelis, one a Muslim and the other a Christian, also have to tie the knot abroad because their religious authorities won’t marry them. Israeli personal status law, like that in Lebanon and Egypt, is governed by the individual’s religious community.
This marriage could be conducted in Israel because Ms. Malka converted.
I remember when I was an early teen that it was still illegal for European-Americans and African-Americans to marry in Virginiaposted @ Wednesday, August 20, 2014 - 22:14
@snarkydude: "I'm "informed" enough not to buy into the bovine excrement of the left"
Just where DO you get YOUR information?
I'm also not the one with the chip on my shoulder and a big case of envy against people who have more than I do. (That would be you.)"
You don't have anything I want or need.
As to the Middle East, even the Balfour Agreement calls that land "PALESTINE."
Every world map and globe prior to 1947 calls that land PALESTINE.
Jewish history itself states that it went into the land of PALESTINA and took it away from the inhabitants. Exodus 15:14.
And every president since Harry Truman has "bowed to the East" towards, not Mecca, but Israel.
(And by the way, I have a niece and nephew who are Jews).posted @ Wednesday, August 20, 2014 - 18:31
@Ben Had; Snarky's statement, "You can make all the excuses you want. Had the world not had a demand for oil, and without Western culture, the Arabs would still be living as they did 200 yeras ago. Without oil, what have they accomplished? Without Western culture, would they have any commerce, other than basic needs." shows how little he knows about Arab contributions to the world.
I wonder if he reads this, if he'll 'google' it, or just continue his path?
Let's see...........posted @ Wednesday, August 20, 2014 - 15:13
[quote][b]snarkydude[/b] - I have an EXCELLENT idea! Since Hillary "WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE" Clinton wants to be president, why doesn't she go, or better yet, send Chelsea, over to Iraq or Syria, and see if she can "hug it out" with the jihadists?
Given another 12-15 years, don't be surprised if Wall Street doesn't have to hire its own army to fight its own wars.posted @ Wednesday, August 20, 2014 - 13:05
[quote][b]snarkydude[/b] - @dahreese: Again, when you have no facts to post, you resort to demeaning the intelligence of others."
Your own posts demean you.
You, and the other conservatives on here do absolutely nothing to get to the truth of any matter - unless it's to read John Stossell and think you've read something 'intellectual.'
You rant and rave about Carter, the Democrats, Islamist, and how you [took the high road of risk and not a government job].
I know you hate to read ((or maybe too tight with money), but buy, and read one or both of two books if you want to know just 'how' corrupt American officials and CEOs work in foreign countries.
Get some information.
"Confessions of an Economic Hit Man"; John Perkins
"Overthrow, America's Century of Regime Change from Hawaii to Iraq."' Stephen Kinzer
Or pair off "The Ugly American" Berdick and Lederer, with "No Good Men Among the Living" Anand Gopal
Helps you understand just WHY! things go wrong in Iraq, Afghanistan, and that area. (Ought to be required reading by every Congress person).
The U.S. makes the same mistakes - over and over and over....then and now.
Nor is Central American a boiling pot of love for America, including Colombia.
Read some books about religon; Read some Karen Armstrong, Elaine Pagels, Marcus Borg, Shellby Spong. Bart Erman.
Once more; You rant and rave about Carter, the Democrats, Islamist, and how you [took the high road of risk and not a government job].
"I've done well enough to put food on the table and a roof over my family's head."
So did my father and we were dirt poor.
You don't have a damned thing I want or need.
Nor is there anything to envy of you or "your position."
I left your hell a long time ago.
Now go get some education, some facts, some reality.
Question your upbringing about politics and religion.
Try to get a world view.
Everything you were taught, and I was taught about politics and religion was WRONG !!!
Then maybe you'll find out, I'll find out, the other conservatives and progressives on here will find out just how intelligent you are.
Even uninformed people can be intelligent.
But they're still uninformed.posted @ Wednesday, August 20, 2014 - 13:02
@Ben Had: "Religion is a tool of war, and both sides are happy that most don't understand that."
Were all born atheist.posted @ Wednesday, August 20, 2014 - 12:12
@marshalld: "Islam is an economic and governmental entity seeking to subjugate the world."
That's too broad a condemnation of Islam.
That there are Islamic terrorist, yes, but not all Muslims support these terrorist. In fact, most do not. Those who do not are victims of Islamic terrorist who seek to establish a fundamentalist version of Islam.
These terrorist are just as ignorant of Islam as most Christians are ignorant of Christianity.
You can view the ignorance of some of these "Christians" as they post here.
Here's a good example; " @dahreese can make all the excuses he/she wants. Weakness from Democrats has allowed this to take place, from Jimmy Carter forward to Obama."posted @ Wednesday, August 20, 2014 - 11:17
@TeeWee; " yet turning a blind eye to the terrible misdeeds of progressive politicians and are not held accountable when they get it wrong."
Who are the progressives who started this war and not held accountable?
"ISIS is here, they are in New Jersey, Lincoln, NE and they are recruiting radicals in St. Louis."
Would you suppose poverty in this country has anything to do with the easy recruitment of terrorist in this country?
Would you suppose the constant putting down of Islam by the religiously Christian ignorant have anything to do with it?posted @ Wednesday, August 20, 2014 - 09:32
@OCCountry: Be better informed. ISIS, is just Al Qaeda renamed.
(And that's just a minor point of your not being able to understand the bigger point).
Jim Foley's mother got it right.
"He gave his life trying to expose the world to the suffering of the Syrian people," said the statement, which was attributed to Foley's mother, Diane Foley. She implored the militants to spare the lives of other hostages. "Like Jim, they are innocents. They have no control over American government policy in Iraq, Syria or anywhere in the world."posted @ Wednesday, August 20, 2014 - 08:38
"In seeking to impose its harsh interpretation of Islamic law in the lands it is trying to control, the extremists have slain soldiers and civilians alike in horrifying ways — including mounting the decapitated heads of some of its victims on spikes."
And our bombs are not horrifying?
Is that not "extreme?"
"In seeking to impose its harsh interpretation of Islamic law in the lands it is trying to control."
Is it the right of the U.S./the Western World to control that land?posted @ Wednesday, August 20, 2014 - 08:33
"We killed the Dictator that had kept it from happening before this."
That is the key.
GWB's daddy saw it.
GWB, the constant failure, did not.
Filled with an ego, suffering from "Affluenza", not understanding the complexities of the Middle East culture, tribalism, historical loyalties, ancient enemies within that culture, he treated the U.S. military like it was his own little toy and played the fool with it.
Dick Cheney got the upper hand in the White House and the blame (not that he cares or ever did for anyone but himself) for the beheading of reporter, James Foley, is Cheney's as much as anyone.
Whether folks like OCCountry can understand it or not, will accept it or not, all of this Middle East turmoil is about oil and natural gas.
It isn't "Democracy."
It isn't "Islam."
BIG OIL is behind this WAR.
Rest in peace, James Foley.
When it gets down to it, all of us who have not protested enough to stop this madness, who care more about driving our cars, who care more about who wins ball games than the needless loss of lives of American soldiers and the innocent families of the Middle East, are to blame for your death.posted @ Wednesday, August 20, 2014 - 08:28
@scarborj: There are just as many thugs in white culture - they just wear ties.posted @ Tuesday, August 19, 2014 - 13:38
@TeeWee: "I am assuming you are talking about the invasion of our Southern borders by people from Central and South America."
Maybe I should ask if Republicans turn away any votes at all from anybody?
I welcome your brother's relatives.
Many of whom come here to flee the corrupt Central and South American governments created by the U.S.posted @ Tuesday, August 19, 2014 - 09:47
@Used2baFreeCountry: "Obama is a prime example of how democrats polarize the races for their own political gain."
If this same race decided to vote Republican, would Republicans turn them away?posted @ Tuesday, August 19, 2014 - 08:46
"Although we haven't reached Nirvana, this country has come a long way in better race relations and "top of the heap" successful Black Americans; Mr. James E. Causey being one of those successful ones.
As I have experienced it, not all successful Black Americans are too sympathetic with Black Americans who are not. That is not to say they look down their noses at hard working Black Americans.
As it was with Travon Martin and George Zimmerman (neither one pure virtue) I'll wait for the entire facts of the matter in Ferguson, Missouri.
We will wait to see if the thug tossing around the store owner was the same person as the one shot by the officer - who seems very distraught in the video made of him moments after the actual shooting.
"Steve Perry, principal of Capital Preparatory Magnet School in Hartford, Conn., said black males have been criminalized from the time they enter school."
This statement is a wide sweep of the brush (similar to some wide brushing of some who post on here)
"They are the most suspended and disciplined of any group."
And how many of these "types" attend his magnet school?
''We have designed a school that is housed in one of the nation’s poorest performing school districts, yet we are able to attract over 2,000 applications from 22 surrounding suburban communities for just 30 available openings."
In short, we are able to hand pick our students.
To repeat, Although we haven't reached Nirvana, this country has come a long way in better race relations and "top of the heap" successful Black Americans.
Time does not allow for a full discussion of police misconduct over the past 1-18 months, but suffice to say, police in this nation need a lot more, and better, training than they are getting.
Let us praise them for the good work that they do as well as "blaming" them when something doesn't go better than it might have.posted @ Monday, August 18, 2014 - 22:04
@Used2baFreeCountry: "One day she asked the kids in her class to raise their hands if they thought it was ok for them to steal.
"All, or almost all, of the kids in the class raised their hands to indicate "yes."
"She asked them why they thought it was ok to steal.
"One of them replied that rich people could just buy another, to replace whatever was stolen from them."
BULLSHEET !posted @ Monday, August 18, 2014 - 21:24
[quote][b]jtsim[/b] - @dahreese: LBJ said that he would have every black person inAmerica voting democrat for the next hundred years.
Democrats have gone after the black vote for a long time and as long as they can keep buying these votes democrats will continue to be elected.
"...buying these votes...."
When a conservative has nothing to say, why is it that they use a wide sweep of the brush as though black people aren't capable of discerning between the political lies of one party over the other?
If you want to reach all the way back to LBJ, let's reach back even further when black people were discouraged/prevented from voting by either party, period
Eugene Talmadge went after the rural vote; "They're up there spending 'your' money', and the uneducated farmers bough into it, hook, line and sinker.
I find it interesting too, how, when times get rough, minorities are blamed.
Let's keep in mind that we whites are now the minority, or pretty damned close to it.posted @ Monday, August 18, 2014 - 15:28
"The pending case is not the first of its kind for the county."
For that matter, it's happening all over the country - at many levels.
"But the county reneged on that promise when, in 2002 and again in 2013, the county ordinance that shapes the benefits policy was changed by the Mayor and Commission, ...."
These folks are due their retirements as "promised."
At least, so far at least, the county has not pulled as fast one on its employees retirement funds as the State has pulled on the retirements of some of its retired state employees; i.e. take some of their retirement funds and invest them in high risk ("Venture Capital") investments, and where only a top few state level politicians know exactly where those funds are going and how they are doing. (And if the investments fail, will the state reimburse those funds to the retirees or just let the retirees hang out to dry?).posted @ Monday, August 18, 2014 - 09:06
No, It means they are uneducated, dumb-downed or just plain stupid. Or is it they just like free stuff.
Kinda like rich Whites on Wall Street...fined by the government yet able to take those fines off their taxes?
Folks like you don't take the time to understand just how Wall Street beats up on you, and then makes you pay for the injuries.posted @ Sunday, August 17, 2014 - 18:10
[quote][b]cyou299[/b] - @Used2baFreeCountry: are you so ignorant as to who exactly is the mainstream media? [/quote]
All of his life he has lived in the fantasy land of "Used2b."posted @ Sunday, August 17, 2014 - 18:04
[quote][b]swimdawg68[/b] - If you continue to limit your information sources to liberal news outlets like NBC, MSNBC, ABC, and CBS, your opportunity to grow will continue to be seriously stunted.[/quote]
As a matter of FACT, I can't tell you the last time I've heard any of these media.
I don't watch television so I'm not influenced by that.
Radio is limited to NPR, although I don't always agree with those whom they interview....
I read; Resource Wars, Blood for Oil; Michael Klare.
Imposter; Bruce Bartlett
Secrets; Daniel Ellsberg
The Ugly American; William Lederer
Confessions of an Economic Hit Man; John Perkins
Overthrow; Stephen Kinzer
The Rich and the Super Rich; Lindberg -
People who do their research, and who's research can be examined, and have something to write about; unlike, say John Stossel.
On the net I read 'Talking Points Memo'; 'Informed Comments'; 'Consortium'; 'Electric Frontier Foundation';
books, magazines and sites that aren't controlled by big corporations.
The above are examples of what I read, by no means an exhaustive list.
You are a prime example of someone with a degree but no education,; so much to the point that you couldn't give an educated description of the difference in conservative and liberal without having to resort to using money in your example.
And anyone who thinks Carson is a good candidate for president, by merely saying that, reveals she/he is uninformed period.
"The Ugly American" is down on your level, short and to the point, but I'll bet you won't read it, or too cheap to buy it. But then, maybe it is over your head.
And everybody in Congress ought to be required to read it and then read "No Good Men Among the Living" by Anand Gopal.
But if you did, but you aren't going to, you'd find that the same mistakes America made in the Asian pacific (The Ugly American) are the same mistakes being made in the MIddle East (No Good Men Among the Living).
So, don't come on here and try to tell me/us you're informed.
"So what have democrats done to earn the black vote? They are still complaining after 50 years since the civil rights bill was passed. Talk about "sheep" wow!"
Seems the Democrats must have done something right since the black voters, according to you and other jealous conservatives, are still voting Democrat.posted @ Sunday, August 17, 2014 - 15:22
[quote][b]swimdawg68[/b] - Hillary will garner the black vote just because she is a democrat."
>So, what, exactly have Republicans done to earn the black vote?
"Liberals will vote for her because she is a female as will many females."
And Republicans will vote against her because she isn't a male.
"She will also secure the vote of the uninformed voter."
Look who's calling the kettle black.
"The republicans must present a strong candidate if they wish to win the WH. I personally like Dr. Ben Carson."
An outstanding example of an "uninformed voter."
"To me, he could beat Clinton and the liberal socialist thinking that permeates the democrat party."
Then why isn't the Republican party clamoring all over him? They are better "informed" perhaps?
"After suffering through 8 years of Obama, our nation needs someone with honesty and integrity to turn us around and Dr. Carson fills that void.
The Establishment would eat him alive.
Neither party has anyone really worth voting for, including Carson.
"As things have been, they remain" and will do so as long as folks like yourself continue to limit your information sources to conservative sources only.
And to support that statement, tell me/us ONE liberal source that you use to compare with your conservative sources.posted @ Sunday, August 17, 2014 - 10:55
"Clinton does not have the soul of a vice president, which is only one of the reasons she will make a great president."
The statement gives strong rise to the question, what makes a "great" president?"
If anything, there's no doubt Hillary can be mean as hell (duplicitous, a liar) although if she happened to be a male that meanness would be called "tough!"
Many people will want her to be tough on terrorists (they're terrorists, not ours).
For certain, Wall Street, big banks, big pharmacy also, have nothing to fear.
Israel has nothing to fear; the Palestinians vs. Israel and the Palestinians will continue to be "pawns in the game" of American control of the Middle East.
The FCC will be stacked with corporate favorites and that will enable media corporations to create a two tier network favoring the money folks over the equal access that we all currently enjoy.
Big oil will continue to use fracking in the U.S.
Illegal spying via the NSA will continue.
Nothing much will change until Americans get off their asses, stop listening to the propaganda of the major corporate media and start reading and listening to the independent reporting and independent media for factuality.
If Hillary is elected, woman or not, she'll be just another president passing through.
Just like Hillary, the Republicans have nobody, and if I have to vote for Hillary (Oh god! perish the thought) I'll be holding my nose.
May not even vote.posted @ Saturday, August 16, 2014 - 20:30
[quote][b]jtsim[/b] - @TeeWee: When Obama's legacy is written it's going to be a short story.
That will be ok, just as long as it includes the clarifying statement made by Republican, Mitch McConnell, "Our first priority is to make certain Obama doesn't have a second term", or words to that affect.
It cannot be denied that the Republican party has worked hard against anything proposed by Obama - which is the cause of a lot of the failure within the Republican party itself.
Obama's reaching across party lines at the beginning of his first term to include Republicans from GWB's administration was a huge, catastrophic political blunder.posted @ Wednesday, August 13, 2014 - 21:31
[quote][b]grove600[/b] - It may be true with respect that the poor are more likely to join the military than someone of means, who sends their kids to college for a 4+ year drinking and skirt chasing program. [/quote]
Without the poor the rich really have no one to protect them.posted @ Wednesday, August 13, 2014 - 17:02
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