@Farmer GA: Why? Why is it wrong to expect children to work? Again, I am not talkng about working in a mine. I am talking about a minumum amount of very easy tasks such as cleaning. Not all day, but, an hour a day or something like that. I fail to see the problem.
There is ample time for working when kids are older. At a young age, children should not be distracted from learning by being made to work for their food. Why do conservatives want government to infringe on parental obligations in teaching their kids the value of work?posted @ Friday, December 20, 2013 - 15:37
@Farmer GA: You are reading your own biases into what he said. He was not addressing Jim Crow or anything like that. He was addressing, what he sees as the difference between pre-welfare state and post-welfare state. He never said that things like lynchings and beatings never happened, he said that he never saw it.
So never seeing means what? It didn't happen? He wasn't aware of it? He condoned it? Once again he grew up with rose colored glasses and never bothered to update them as an adult.
See there? You took the "re" off of redistributive programs. Are you trying to say that money, distributed to those who recieve payments, is created out of thin air? Or, is the more honest answer is that the money is taken, by force, from some, and then REdistributed to those who recieve payments?
It was a freudian slip?
Regardless, "redistribution" programs are not ALL wrong. You pay premiums into an insurance policy and when you have an insurance claim you are "redistributed" a monetary amount to defray the cost of your claim. Many times the claims exceeds the money you've contributed. The same could be said for SS and Medicare.
Ari Melber defined redistributive government as any centralized mechanism for taking in funds and then reallocating them in ways that planners view as the most constructive for the economy or that achieves the maximum social benefit. Therefore, he says, nearly every government activity could be defined as redistributive.posted @ Friday, December 20, 2013 - 15:06
@Farmer GA: We are truely in trouble when we are insulted when a person suggests that those, who recieve welfare, should have to work for it. It is a lesson that we should all encourage.
No one is against the policy that adults who receive welfare should work or seek employment. Most on welfare that aren't children, the elderly and the disabled actually do work or are actively seeking employment. (Look it up.) It's the part about children in school working that is the problem.posted @ Friday, December 20, 2013 - 14:38
@Farmer GA: Through the eyes of a poor white child who had nothing to do with the writing or enforcing of Jim Crow laws. He and his family were likely subject to some of the same hatred, by those in power, as those black people with whom he worked.
Are you actually saying he would not have understood the difference between a white's only water fountain and a colored's only restroom? When he went to the city and saw the discrimination, did he actually think this was okay and the right thing to do when he grew up? Seems he has the same views he had when he was a child, then.
Phil Robertson graduated from Louisiana Tech with a Bachelor of Arts degree in Physical Education and later received a Masters of Arts degree in Education via night classes while working as a schoolteacher. He is an educated man but with views that belong in the pre-Civil-Rights-era.
Careful, you are being dishonest again. I have said, every time this argument comes up, that ALL redistributive programs are wrong. And I have defined what I mean by "redistributive programs".
Dishonest? Dishonesty has more to do with equating ALL distributive programs as wrong.posted @ Friday, December 20, 2013 - 14:10
@Farmer GA: Care to tell me where he advocated for the return to Jim Crow?
"I never, with my eyes, saw the mistreatment of any black person. Not once," the reality star said of growing up in pre-Civil-Rights-era Louisiana.
I never said he did. But the article referenced how he viewed pre-Civil-Rights-era in Louisiana. Not once did he mention Jim Crow laws that discriminated against blacks. But he did say that he saw they seemed happy and never sang the blues. They never complained to him, so they must be happy. Like I said he views life through rose colored glasses.
The welfare state has killed the poor African American family as well as poor white families, that is a fact. He was simply pointing out that the pride, that goes with a honest days work, makes people happy.
Every chance you get, you blame society's woes on welfare to the poor, hardly acknowledging that welfare to the rich exceeded any welfare for the poor and has done more to destroy the balance and harmony of a nation. Inequity in wages, laws or rights creates revolution – by changing the status quo.posted @ Friday, December 20, 2013 - 13:26
@Farmer GA: Again, I am not talking about sending kids in to coal mines to toil away for hours, but, rather, help keep the classroom and school grounds neat and clean. I do not, for the life of me, understand why people would resist that idea.
The dichotomy between work and play has long been a signifier of western culture. It is generally considered that value resides in the former while the latter is most often characterized as frivolous and unproductive. The separation of the two in education finds our children “working” while in the classroom and only “playing” outside of the classroom walls. To the education community---and the community at large---children are expected to spend their hours in school busily “working” to prepare themselves for the “world of work.” Seriousness must define their efforts while in school and seriousness is equated with the concept of work. Play, on the other hand, denotes time that is free, lacking direction and given over to freedom lacking discipline. http://www2.hawaii.edu/~pesaconf/zpdfs/83peters.pdf
But according to Tom Sawyer work is what you get paid to do, and play is what you pay to do.posted @ Friday, December 20, 2013 - 12:50
@friendlyfire: I see the NAACP is trying to get on the band wagon as well. Let them not be outdone by the gays. Besides who are you or anyone else to say that what he said is not his truth? I never witnessed any crosses burning in yards or blacks being lynched. But I didn't grow up in the South. It wasn't until I was thirteen and visiting the South for the first time that I even met a black person. She seemed happy and nice. That was my first impression. We sent a few letters back and forth after I returned home.
You may not have seen crosses burning, lynchings, whites only establishments, separate but not equal facilities, or blacks beaten for trying to vote. But they did happen and if you were living during those times, you knew they were happening. I love the way slavery and Jim Crow apologists always bring up the fact that the blacks they knew seemed happy, oblivious to their suffering in a white dominant culture of suppression. Remember that quote about walking in someone else's shoes? I don't think many of these apologists have ever tried to look at race from the view of those who feel oppressed. They view the world through rose colored glasses.posted @ Friday, December 20, 2013 - 12:35
It's a good thing that fathers are more involved in the care and nurturing of their children.posted @ Friday, December 20, 2013 - 11:23
The media has focused on his "gay" comments but hardly covered his most offensive comments which were about blacks.
The 67-year-old "Duck Dynasty" star was suspended by A&E Wednesday for calling homosexuality sinful — and putting gay people in same category as terrorists. While those quotes quickly went viral, it wasn't his only brow-raising statement in the interview; he also implied that African Americans were happier living under Jim Crow laws.
"I never, with my eyes, saw the mistreatment of any black person. Not once," the reality star said of growing up in pre-Civil-Rights-era Louisiana. "Where we lived was all farmers. The blacks worked for the farmers. I hoed cotton with them. I'm with the blacks, because we're white trash. We're going across the field ... They're singing and happy. I never heard one of them, one black person, say, 'I tell you what: These doggone white people' — not a word!"
Robertson continued, "Pre-entitlement, pre-welfare, you say: Were they happy? They were godly; they were happy; no one was singing the blues."
Needless to say, that hasn't gone over well either. A spokesperson for the NAACP shared a copy of the letter that they, along with the Human Rights Campaign, sent to "Duck Dynasty" network A&E. In addition to asking for the network to "denounce and repudiate Robertson's comments," they demanded that Robertson "apologizes for his vitriolic comments."
"We want to be clear why Phil Robertson's remarks are not just dangerous but also inaccurate," the letter stated, in part. "Mr. Robertson claims that, from what he saw, African Americans were happier under Jim Crow. What he didn't see were lynching and beatings of black men and women for attempting to vote or simply walking down the street."
Noting that the remarks "go beyond being outlandishly inaccurate and offensive" and are actually "dangerous and revisionist, appealing to those in our society who wish to repeat patterns of discrimination," the letter said Robertson's "words show an unbridled lack of respect for African Americans and LGBT people, and the ongoing challenges members of our communities continue to experience on a daily basis."
I'm afraid this is the attitude of many whites in the South today. They have a rosy view of slavery and Jim Crow. The blacks must be happy, they weren't singing the blues. Really?posted @ Friday, December 20, 2013 - 10:44
@Farmer GA: No more danger than letting them outside to play on school equipment.
But isn't working and playing different things?posted @ Friday, December 20, 2013 - 10:09
@Farmer GA: I actually agree with you here. I believe that a good thing to do is to stop charging for lunch all together and have ALL able bodied students do tasks for their meals. Say like picking up trash on the school grounds, or, light landscaping, etc. I believe it would be a valuable lesson.
But the liabilities... Imagine all the lawsuits when some of these kids get hurt doing some of this light work around the school.posted @ Friday, December 20, 2013 - 08:28
@davidxto: You might be interested to know that the Redneck Christmas Parade and festival has morphed into the BonfireJam country music festival.
When the tiny town of Chumuckla's annual Redneck Christmas Parade grew from an inside joke among locals to an event that routinely drew crowds of 10,000 to 15,000 people, CNN saw a story.
Milton native Joe Lewis saw an opportunity.
"I thought 'if CNN is down here covering this thing, there must be something to it,'" Lewis said. "We've got 10 to 15,000 (rear ends) in seats as a captive audience that just goes home at 4 p.m.
"This is a country music town, so I said 'I'm going to bring in country music and put it in this field here so they have something to do after 4 o'clock.'"
The next year, Lewis created BonfireJam, building a stage in the middle of an empty cotton field and giving redneck revelers a reason to stick around into the night.
Isn't entrepreneurism great?posted @ Friday, December 20, 2013 - 08:17
@theold33: Nothing. Just giving your discussion some ink. I'd like to see the parade myself. I was wondering. Do most rednecks vote republican?
They vote? I learn something new everyday.posted @ Friday, December 20, 2013 - 08:04
Now theold33, what is unbalanced and unfair about this post? I find this story quite amusing and wouldn't mind seeing the festival and parade in person if I was ever in Chumuckla. (Really, this is a place?)
Chumuckla is a Census-designated place in Santa Rosa County, Florida, United States. The town was once centered at "Coon Hill" near the Springs, but is now centered East of the school at county road 197. It is a farming community that more recently is attracting a population boom among people seeking a measure of relief from the urban environment of Pensacola, FL. The population of Chumuckla was 850 in 2010. Chumuckla is known for its elaborate Redneck Christmas Festival and Parade. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chumuckla,_Florida
Chumuckla town in Florida got its name from the Chumuckla Springs where the Native Americans first settled. http://www.kgbanswers.com/where-did-the-town-chumuckla-florida-get-its-n...posted @ Thursday, December 19, 2013 - 16:32
@jtsim: The moral of the story is you could do a lot worser than ending up in a trailer park. If it hadn't been for the teflon suits they would be full time residents of Area 51 instead of just working there part time.
Another moral may be that, irrespective of trailer parks, "old geezers and gals" like sex too.
In September 2012, amazeballs rolled into the Collins Online Dictionary, with the definition “an expression of enthusiastic approval.” The Urban Dictionary glosses it thusly: “Basically beyond amazing. Being so awesome that a regular word can't describe you.” It appeared on PerezHilton.com as early as 2009—at which point multiple commenters implored the blogger to “stop trying to make amazeballs happen.” On June 15, 2009, amazeballs started trending on Twitter, prompting Hilton to fire off a series of victory tweets about his contribution to the lexicon. But trouble brewed on the horizon: The comedy duo Jessica and Hunter posted a YouTube video on June 23 claiming that they had invented the term. Cue turf war.
As it happens, they’re both wrong. The originator of the term appears to be fashion blogger Elizabeth Spiridakis. In an interview with Gavin McInnes, Spiridakis takes credit/responsibility for the adjective/noun/adjective-annoyingly-disguised-as-a-noun—though she wisely displaces some of the blame onto her BFFs. Spiridakis:
To be fair, the true originator of “amazeballs” was probably Ece Ozturk or Andrea Oliveri, two of my best friends. We met at Details mag in 2003 and all had a love of ridiculous shorthand and nicknames and dumb jokes like that. Putting “-balls” on everything was pretty standard (starveballs, hungballs, tiballs, exhaustballs = starving, hungry, tired, exhausted. regs vocab for girls at magazines.) I just had a forum to make it more public because I am addicted to the internets and they are just sorta “whatevs” about blogs, etc.posted @ Thursday, December 19, 2013 - 14:21
@Malcom Merriweather: My friends to the right of me politically do not "hate" him Jim. Rather, they have a sincere ideologically different approach to solving the healthcare issue.
Could you elaborate? What is this ideological different approach to solving the healthcare issue your friends on the right have? And why didn't republicans pass one when they had the majority?posted @ Thursday, December 19, 2013 - 14:16
@Lady of the Lake: I remember the day when a Liberal would say, "I disagree with you but I'll defend to the end - your right to say it."
He had the right to say what he said, and guess what? He said it. There was no infringement of his constitutional right of free speech. But there are consequences to using your right to free speech. Especially in business.
I seem to remember a boycott of the Dixie Chicks when they used their constitutional right of free speech to criticize President Bush. Didn't radio stations ban their music?posted @ Thursday, December 19, 2013 - 13:40
So, Kingston, are you going to make middle class or rich kids clean school rooms because they are getting a "free" public education and could use this valuable learning experience, too?
What's with these republican politicians who want to put poor kids to work? Isn't that the parent's role? Teaching their children the value of work by making them do choirs around the house? This is just another abdication of parental responsibility by dumping it on schools. Besides we have child labor laws that protects children from being used in the labor force until they get to a certain age.
This crap smacks more of stigmatizing poor kids and distinguishing them from those who's families can afford to pay for things the poor cannot. (sarcasm alert) Instead of a star of David why not make them wear "Free Food" arm bands? (end sarcasm alert)posted @ Thursday, December 19, 2013 - 13:22
Jesus and Saint Nicholas were real people and they were not white. White was not a category that was apropos in ancient times. "White" is a modern affectation and did not have the same meaning in the past.
Christ and Santa are not real but icons — fictional characters created by man and can be any color you want them to be because they aren't REAL.
Jesus and Christ is based precisely on a fundamental fact. Which is that Jesus didn’t create Christianity — his followers created Christianity, and so, of course, Christ of Christianity is different from the Jesus of history. And the same can be said for St. Nick and Santa. St. Nick of history and Santa Claus of Commercialism are two different things, too.posted @ Thursday, December 19, 2013 - 11:42
@Farmer GA: No, I didn't believe anything Obama said from the start.
Glad to see that you are admitting to a bias against Obama from the start.
You are not going to find anything fair in reporting about Obama unless the reporter can tell you, first hand, if he has any strange growths on his colon.
Ah, now more pseudo-facts wrapped around a health care issue.posted @ Wednesday, December 18, 2013 - 15:35
@Farmer GA: It becomes a matter of dueling websites at that point. I wouldn't believe those two "news" sources if they told me water was wet and you would have similar feeliings about any that I may offer, so, what is the point really?
Don't want to share? Okay.
I have stated before, it matters not to me if this law worked like the lies led many to believe. The fact that government is forcing me to buy a product, is enough for me to fight this law with eveything I have.
So, when are you going to fight car insurance?posted @ Wednesday, December 18, 2013 - 15:31
@Farmer GA: You mean those same consarvative corporations who gave more to Obama than they did to McCain? Those Conserative corporations?
That's called "reading the tea leaves". They read and can digest the polls and knew McCain/Palin ticket didn't stand a chance with Palin on the ticket.
Those conservative news stations like CNN, and MSNBC? With thrills going up their legs and wanting to deficate down the throat of Conservative women?
I'll give you MSNBC which everyone acknowledges has a liberal bias, but one network out of how many others?
After relentlessly, deliberately one-sided and incomplete reporting by investigative reporter Drew Griffin, some CNN reporters have begun to make an honest effort to assess the effects of the Affordable Care Act on consumers who are complaining of “sticker shock.” On Tuesday, Jake Tapper and Elizabeth Cohen each featured interviews with consumers on the individual market, and while their reporting was more fair than what we’ve seen, it still falls well short of what’s needed. http://www.mediaite.com/tv/cnns-jake-tapper-and-elizabeth-cohen-try-to-b...
CBS News, happy to jump on the Obamacare not-really-a-scandal, found a woman in Florida who is losing her crappy insurance policy and is unhappy about it. Which was debunked by Fox News (imagine that). http://mediamatters.org/mobile/research/2013/11/22/how-the-gop-uses-netw...
Come on, you are not that gullable are you? Perhaps that dishonest, but, not that gullable.
I'm not the one who's dishonest or gullible, might that not describe you better than me?posted @ Wednesday, December 18, 2013 - 15:09
@Farmer GA: I did and most have been "debunked" by entities like MSNBC and the DailyKos. There are two unbiased players right there. So-nuff.
Want to show us examples of where they got the debunking wrong? Instead of shooting the messenger, why don't you shoot the message?posted @ Wednesday, December 18, 2013 - 15:03
@OCCountry: Unfortunately, this is not exactly news. He had a severe stroke after his last prediction missed thus the reason he did not make another predicition for me to ignore. Like you said, at least now he will never delude people again.
The saddest thing is that there will always be people like him and they will always have their followers.posted @ Wednesday, December 18, 2013 - 14:44
@Farmer GA: I don't care who you are, that's funny right there!!!! Dude, where have you been? Until it became obvious that the ACA was a massive train wreck, the MSM has been slobbering all over all things Obama since 2007. They all seem to have had "thrills up their legs" for the chosen one.
The MSM is almost entirely conservative-biased and corporate owned contrary to conservative claims. The majority of ACA horror stories passed off as news in the MSM are negatively manufactured because, dude, the media is mostly owned by conservative corporations. Look it up if you don't believe me.
Just Google "ACA horror stories by MSM" and you'll see that most have been debunked.posted @ Wednesday, December 18, 2013 - 14:41
Summary: North Oconee's Kawon Bryant was named the Region 8-AAA Offensive Player of they Year. North Oconee's Kawon Bryant was named the Region 8-AAA Offensive Player of they Year. Elbert County's Mecole Hardman was the Player of the Year. Hart County's Sean Harper and Morgan County's Tevin Waller were named Co-Defensive Players of the Year. Here's the rest of the All-Region team: Harison Puder, North OconeeKyle Vaughn, North OconeeTate Adcock, North OconeeJL Banks, North OconeeCole Coker, North OconeeIndy Wilson, North OconeeBradley Glenn, North OconeeBrackin Smith, North OconeeXavier Harper, Jackson County read more
Summary: Nearly 80 players from two dozen high schools will participate in the FCA All-Star game on Friday. Nearly 80 players from two dozen high schools will participate in the FCA All-Star game on Friday. The game will be played at Clarke Central at 7:30 p.m. The West team will be headed by honorary head coach Billy Henderson and assistant head coach Jeff Herron, The East team will be led by honorary head coach Ray Lamb and assistant head coach Michael Gunn.