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Not to seem cold, because I am for harsh punishment for sex offenders, but, can someone tell me why the Federal government is sticking its nose into this issue? It is a state and local issue.

posted @ Thursday, January 23, 2014 - 08:56

There is NO EXCUSE for the Federal Government to take close to 40% of anybody's money. In fact, there is no excuse for the Feds to take 10% of anybody's money.

For the good of us all, we must starve this beast before it eats us all alive.

posted @ Thursday, January 23, 2014 - 08:52

[quote][b]catman[/b] - Question something with enough noise and the subject becomes limbo ( up to debate).
* Fabrication of data or cherry picking of data.
* Denier create noise and groups to offer different opinions (As if science were up for opinion).
* The scientific discussion shifts from discussing details, to the debate about fundamental conclusions (Questioning settled science). Claim: Scientists only want more funding. Hence, irrational suggesting everything must be wrong and is in question (limbo[/quote]

It was my impression that scientific theory was always up for debate. I am cautious when debate is limited. If the theory is that cut and dry, defending it should be a fun exercise.

I would welcome a debate on the theory of gravity, evolution, and all other commonly accepted theories.

posted @ Wednesday, January 22, 2014 - 15:08

[quote][b]catman[/b] - Al Gore is a multi-millionaire and lives like one. Can you name any multi-millionaires who choose to live a life-style with a tiny carbon footprint?[/quote]

I don't know if he is a millionaire or not,but Ed. Bagley Jr. (sp?) seems to talk the talk, AND walk the walk.

As most people are not going to dive into the raw numbers associated with climate change, the only way they are going to hear about it is through people like Gore. When they see him making millions off the therory of AGW, and living like his own reduction in the production of CO2 is the last thing on his mind, why should they believe him?

It is like somone telling you that cutting down a tree at Christmas is wrong and you shouldn't do it, all the while clear cutting 1000's of acres a year.

Again, it is not just Gore doing this, it is the hypocrites in the Government who say that we should not do this or that, while they are doing that very thing on a grand scale.

posted @ Wednesday, January 22, 2014 - 14:52

[quote][b]Dr Benway[/b] - If true, that may be because "most people" have a cartoonish world view.
As I said earlier, my tastes run more toward Snagglepuss and Top Cat.[/quote]

But, it doesn't matter what your world view is. If change is the goal, you must change the perception of "most people". When "most people" see our "leaders" spewing out CO2 at a rate that would make a coal fired power plant owner blush, they tend to discount what they say about the necessity of sacrifice.

posted @ Wednesday, January 22, 2014 - 13:27

"They who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." Benjamin Franklin

posted @ Wednesday, January 22, 2014 - 13:20

[quote][b]Dr Benway[/b] - @Farmer GA:
I am neither an acolyte nor contrarian of Al Gore.
The man rarely crosses my mind; I think of Snagglepuss or Top Cat more often than I do him.

For most people, AGW is linked to Al Gore. He, as well as other proponets of the theory, in Government, seem to have a "good enough for thee, but, not me" way of looking at solutions to the problem.

posted @ Wednesday, January 22, 2014 - 13:06

[quote][b]Dr Benway[/b] - A hint to all you knee-jerkers: Al Gore is in favor of breathing oxygen.

Would you follow the words of a preacher who tells you to fast, stay away from women, and give all of your money away if he ate to excess, kept company with "low" women, and lived a very expensive lifestyle?

If Mr. Gore was really worried about the planet killing effects of AGW, one would think that he would do more to help prevent it, like living a simpler lifestyle with a smaller carbon foot print. To me, his behavior hints that he doesn't beleive what he preaches.

posted @ Wednesday, January 22, 2014 - 11:49

@dzogchen: And if you want to try and change the culture by convincing more people that they should find other ways to do things so that we can reduce the amount of CO2, I am with you. If, on the other hand, you advocate strong armed tactics, by the world governments, to redistribute wealth or use draconian regulation to force people to bend to the will of statists, I will fight you till my last breath.

posted @ Wednesday, January 22, 2014 - 11:09

[quote][b]Greg Benson[/b] - And Gore's motive?[/quote]

Money and power. How much has Gore made off of AGW? Enough to use a private jet that burns more fuel in one trip than an SUV burns in a year, build a 24,000SF house with a power bill/month more than most people make in a year, and purchase a beach front house (I thought the oceans were going to rise?).

That is what gives me pause. Most of the big voices in AGW have the carbon foot print of several hundred people, yet they tell us that we must cut back. If Mr. Gore was living in a 900SF house with solar panels and a windmill and riding a bike where he went, I could take him at his word, but, it looks an awful lot like he is using over the top scare tactics to gain money an power.

posted @ Wednesday, January 22, 2014 - 10:22

The farther you get away from the students, the more damage you will do. Keep funding AND control, of public schools, as local as possible and get over the false assumption that one-size-fits-all, it doesn't.

posted @ Wednesday, January 22, 2014 - 10:07

@mpd0.59: Exactly what does that have to do with anything? Are you saying that the income tax makes us live longer?

posted @ Wednesday, January 22, 2014 - 09:57

[quote][b]Greg Benson[/b] - Still amazes me that people want to make this political. [/quote]

When you have Statists using it to further their dreams of gaining power, it is going to be political.

posted @ Wednesday, January 22, 2014 - 09:16

How can on look at that list of numbers and not be sick at your stomach? The IRS was a mistake. The income tax was a mistake. We can get along just fine with a pre-1913 tax structure. We had a military. We had schools. We had roads. We had a national debt that was so low that the richest American could have paid it off single handedly. Cut the fat off of the Federal pig and stop punishing work.

posted @ Wednesday, January 22, 2014 - 09:00

Nothing illustrates the Government's use of "fuzzy math" more than the unemployment numbers.

posted @ Wednesday, January 22, 2014 - 08:48

As I see it, AGW may be real, but, the fact is, real or not, the political class is using AGW to gain power. That is what gives me pause. To the pollitical class, AGW is nothing more than a means to a statist end, so, I am forced to fight against government policies aimed (not really) at stopping AGW.

posted @ Wednesday, January 22, 2014 - 08:43

[quote][b]Pfunk[/b] - Don't worry. This will get old and another juicy story will present itself for the media vultures.[/quote]

No doubt.

posted @ Tuesday, January 21, 2014 - 16:00

[quote][b]avenger[/b] - What a bunch of BS.[/quote]

Only what is below that statement in your post.

I forgot, Obama does nothing except play golf and take vacations to exotic places. I guess if you don't lead, you can't be held responsible for actons on your watch, in your name. Is that what you are saying?

If Obama was to slice Stevens' throat on national TV, you would still deny he had anything to do with it, or, at best, that Steven's asked him to do it.

[quote][b]avenger[/b] - Sorry, libertarians are the teapublicans.[/quote]

While there is a libertarian bent to many, in the Tea Party, the Libertarians have been around much longer and are seperate from Republicans. The TEA party is a rebellion from within the Republican party.

BTW, where are my examples of racist laws and goals of the TEA party?

posted @ Tuesday, January 21, 2014 - 15:59

[quote][b]Pfunk[/b] - I thought they were. I've seen a lot of coverage of all those examples. There is less now because they are moving on to the more recent scandals. This is just the current, juicy story.[/quote]

Some are, but, most have been lacking.

posted @ Tuesday, January 21, 2014 - 15:08

[quote][b]avenger[/b] - Where is your evidence that Obama or those close to Obama had anything to do with any of your fake scandals?[/quote]

Do you deny that the IRS targeted the Teaparty and other conservative groups? Obama didn't until it got a little hot for him. His people were involved one of them "took the 5th" to avoid telling the truth.

Do you deny that Fast and Furious was a program headed by the DOJ and, if I am not mistaken, Holder was appointed by Obama. Am I wrong? Holder also lied under oath about the program.

Did Obama not appoint Killery to the State Department? The state departement had been stonewalling the Senate investigation. Those are all under Obama.

Admit it, if these same things had happend under Bush, you would be demanding his head on a pike.

[quote][b]avenger[/b] - Oh, I'm sure there are plenty of neocon republicans too. But teapublicans aren't REAL conservatives either.[/quote]

I never said that they were. Many of them are not. The only real conservatives left are now called Libertarians.

[quote][b]avenger[/b] - Laws that discriminate against race, gender or nationality aren't conservative values either. But they flourish as ideas and goals in the teapublican platforms[/quote]

Examples of these racist laws and goals please.

posted @ Tuesday, January 21, 2014 - 15:06

[quote][b]fatmack0011[/b] - My car ran out of gas, blame it on Obama. My kid was suspended from school, blame it on Obama. My husband cheated on me, blame it on Obama. Come on folks dont let folks keep pissing on your head and tell you its raining.[/quote]

When the Federal government has its fingers in places where it doesn't belong, it must accept the blame when they screw things up. Obama is the head of that monster, so, he is the lightning rod. It is time for him to put on his big boy pants and accept that.

posted @ Tuesday, January 21, 2014 - 14:13

[quote][b]dawgette[/b] - If they would take the 100 percent cost of Medicaid that federal govt will give for the 1st 3 yrs and then they will pay 90 percent after 3 yrs, all of it would be cheaper. But Deal said no. Can't afford. How can you not afford it if it's paid 100 percent? [/quote]

You would actually trust the Federal government to keep its word? That is a fools bet.

posted @ Tuesday, January 21, 2014 - 14:09

Wouldn't it just be better to get the Government out of health insurance?

You know it would, but, most will not admit it.

posted @ Tuesday, January 21, 2014 - 14:05

[quote][b]avenger[/b] - What is so sad on your part is trying to link Obama to stuff that has no links or ties to him[/quote]

Yeah. Federal agencies, like the IRS, NSA, DOJ, State Department, etc, have absolutly no link to the President of the United States. OK. whatever.

[quote][b]avenger[/b] - Real conservatives or who I'd call traditional conservatives do support Christie and it's the teapublicans who don't support Christie. And contrary to what you think teapublicans are a minority in the republican party.[/quote]

I believe you have the terms Conservatives and Neo-cons confused. The Republican party is full of Neo-cons, but, they are not conservative as most of them advocate for a larger and more powerful Federal Government. That is something that a real conservative would never do.

[quote][b]avenger[/b] - Same argument. Wrong on both accounts[/quote]

If you were honest, you wouldn't have written this.

posted @ Tuesday, January 21, 2014 - 13:58

[quote][b]avenger[/b] - Try reading and digesting the contents of the article. This $224 million is cut from the embassy security AFTER the Benghazi attack. So much for the republican concern for future attacks.[/quote]

You are correct.

posted @ Tuesday, January 21, 2014 - 13:49

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