[quote][b]avenger[/b] - I'm not the one who's dishonest or gullible, might that not describe you better than me?[/quote]
No, I didn't believe anything Obama said from the start.
You are not going to find anything fair in reporting about Obama unless the reporter can tell you, first hand, if he has any strange growths on his colon.posted @ Wednesday, December 18, 2013 - 15:21
[quote][b]avenger[/b] - Want to show us examples of where they got the debunking wrong? Instead of shooting the messenger, why don't you shoot the message?[/quote]
It becomes a matter of dueling websites at that point. I wouldn't believe those two "news" sources if they told me water was wet and you would have similar feeliings about any that I may offer, so, what is the point really?
I do know that the main horror story is that millions have lost their coverage and Mr. O lied through his teeth about it.
I do know that this law limits freedom, forces association, and is redistributive in nature (all three are not constitutional)
I have stated before, it matters not to me if this law worked like the lies led many to believe. The fact that government is forcing me to buy a product, is enough for me to fight this law with eveything I have.posted @ Wednesday, December 18, 2013 - 15:15
[quote][b]Duke Briscoe[/b] - An Obamacare feature that is not widely known is that there are substantial subsidies available to help pay the deductibles and copays if you are making below 250% of the poverty level [/quote]
Great!!! More people on the government dole. That is what I call real sucess right there. (I knew that, BTW) I can't wait to write that big fat check to the Feds come April. It is so much fun!!!posted @ Wednesday, December 18, 2013 - 15:00
[quote][b]avenger[/b] - Just Google "ACA horror stories by MSM" and you'll see that most have been debunked. [/quote]
I did and most have been "debunked" by entities like MSNBC and the DailyKos. There are two unbiased players right there. So-nuff.posted @ Wednesday, December 18, 2013 - 14:56
[quote][b]avenger[/b] - The majority of ACA horror stories passed off as news in the MSM are negatively manufactured because, dude, the media is mostly owned by conservative corporations. [/quote]
You mean those same consarvative corporations who gave more to Obama than they did to McCain? Those Conserative corporations? Those conservative news stations like CNN, and MSNBC? With thrills going up their legs and wanting to deficate down the throat of Conservative women? Come on, you are not that gullable are you? Perhaps that dishonest, but, not that gullable.posted @ Wednesday, December 18, 2013 - 14:48
[quote][b]Normaltown yellow dog[/b] - The problem you have with him is the color of his skin. If he could run again he would win, again.[/quote]
I have family members who have more color than he does. Family that I respect and admire. I know that the left has used the race card with impunity in the past and have achieved their desired results with it, but, no more. We aren't playing anymore. The fact of the matter is that Obama is a Statist. He uses force to get his way. He has little to no respect for our Constitution. He has caused much damage to the American way of life. He has improved NOTHING. He has eroded the freedom of all Americans.
I would list the ways just the ACA violates the Constitution, but, the Left is not concerned with the law except to find ways to twist or break it to suit their evil, statist goals.posted @ Wednesday, December 18, 2013 - 14:41
[quote][b]cyou299[/b] - so now he's evil?[/quote]
No, he has been evil for a long time. Statists are evil. He is a statist, is he not?
[quote][b]cyou299[/b] - On top of the all day every day paranoia you post, that says tons about you. [/quote]
It says nothing except that I am not easily dazzled by BS.posted @ Wednesday, December 18, 2013 - 14:33
[quote][b]ponsoldt[/b] - of course it can work. it's worked very well in massachusetts.[/quote]
For one thing, the ACA is 2000 pages long the Mass program is about 75 pages long, so, they are not the same. That is about like saying that "War and Peace" and "The Little Engine That Could" are the same. That doesn't even include the 10000 pages of new regulation that goes along with the ACA. For another, "Romneycare" is a STATE program, so it is legal.
[quote][b]ponsoldt[/b] - the definition of "lying politician": a republican talking about obamacare.[/quote]
I thought it had been established that the definition of a lying politician is "If you like your healthcare plan, you can keep your healthcare plan, period."posted @ Wednesday, December 18, 2013 - 14:27
[quote][b]avenger[/b] - For every horror story on the right, there are more success stories of coverage that won't see it's way into the conservative-biased, corporate-owned media.[/quote]
I don't care who you are, that's funny right there!!!! Dude, where have you been? Until it became obvious that the ACA was a massive train wreck, the MSM has been slobbering all over all things Obama since 2007. They all seem to have had "thrills up their legs" for the chosen one.posted @ Wednesday, December 18, 2013 - 14:19
[quote][b]Stinky_Dawg_Luvin[/b] - Access to schools should be very controlled to outsiders -[/quote]
Most times it is not outsiders who shoot up schools, it is students.
I believe an armed resource officer is enough. I don't see how having a rifle in a safe is going to do anything.posted @ Wednesday, December 18, 2013 - 13:48
[quote][b]Normaltown yellow dog[/b] - @Fred III: Not sarcasm - The TRUTH
Dude, I would stick with the out that Fred gave you. It was sarcasm, right? wink, wink.posted @ Wednesday, December 18, 2013 - 13:14
[quote][b]cyou299[/b] - Maybe you mean 'legacy'. Obama is doing it for his legacy. Or because he thought it was the right thing to do.[/quote]
No, he does it for the power. He is an evil person, there can be no doubt in that. I really don't think he is stupid enough to believe that the crap he has pulled is "the right thing to do" for the American People. Do you believe that he is stupid enough to think that?
[quote][b]cyou299[/b] - But heck, we re-elected him, so what do we know [/quote]
Not much it appears.posted @ Wednesday, December 18, 2013 - 13:12
@hoodoo: Dude, how about you get up, put some pants on, go upstairs, see if your mother will fix you a bowl of rice krispies, walk outside, and see how the real world works?
True Capitalism is rare these days because the Federal Government has been trying to kill it for several decades. Still, when the government screws the pooch and the economy tanks, the little freedom left is attacked by them and their blind followers as the cause of the problem. How does it feel to be used? Do you feel dirty??posted @ Wednesday, December 18, 2013 - 13:01
[quote][b]dahreese[/b] - The fact IS, government is a customer of commerce just as is a private citizen.[/quote]
The point is that it is not supposed to be, at least not at the level it currently is.
[quote][b]dahreese[/b] - Reducing taxes hasn't increased prosperity in this country or in any country.[/quote]
Pure bull snort.
[quote][b]dahreese[/b] - Cut government spending in the way that conservatives and tea party folks want to cut it, especially social programs, and it will only continue our downward economy.[/quote]
Because taking money, from those who earn it, is a winning formula for economic growth.posted @ Wednesday, December 18, 2013 - 12:51
[quote][b]As I See It[/b] - Who exactly is being overtaxed? [/quote]
Between Local, State, and Federal taxes, I pay more than 45% of my income in taxes and I am, by no means, unusual. That is a crime.
[quote][b]As I See It[/b] - Cut spending? How about cutting 1/3 of the military instead of increasing the military budget. [/quote]
I am all for it. Cut the Pentagon to the bone. I would cut them far more than 1/3, I am thinking 75%. Get the Federal Government out of retirement, healthcare, and welfare. They have no Constitutional authority to be involved in those aspects of the economy
[quote][b]As I See It[/b] - It seems that taxes are the lowest then ever. [/quote]
No, they are not. The were lower in the first few years after the Federal Income tax was implimented. Prior to the Federal income tax, they were much lower.posted @ Wednesday, December 18, 2013 - 12:46
[quote][b]cyou299[/b] - I disagree. The trick of course is to have a government of the people, by the people, for the people. [/quote]
The only way to do that is to have it small and strictly constrained by the Constitution. The Constitution was written to limit government so that it cannot get so big and powerful as to enfringe on our natural rights.posted @ Wednesday, December 18, 2013 - 10:23
[quote][b]cyou299[/b] - Obama is out in 3 years. What scenario do you see that he is seeking power? To what end? He has no support for going beyond 3 more years. [/quote]
No matter when he is out, he is forever conected to the Federal power structure. He is in "the club" as it were. It is much like corporations giving big money to candidates. If those candidates are elected, they owe the guys who put them there and thereby, the corporations gain power. Obama builds the structure and those Statists who come after him will owe the guy who put them there. Do you think Bill Clinton is powerless in D.C.?posted @ Wednesday, December 18, 2013 - 10:17
[quote][b]rlynde[/b] - According to Lee's letter, the insurance companies were competing for his business. Sounds like good old capitalism to me. Did you read the same letter?[/quote]
You need to really think about what "capitalism" is. Capitalism is not force. If I held a gun to your head and told you to buy a product, no matter if you wanted it or not, would you call that capitalism? The same goes for the merchant. If I were to hold a gun to his head a force him to sell you a product, against his better judgement, is that capitalism?
If the answer to my questions is no, you cannot call the ACA capitalism.
If the answer is yes, you need to reeducate yourslelf.posted @ Wednesday, December 18, 2013 - 09:54
[quote][b]hoodoo[/b] - Republicans object to O-care simply, and only, because a colored man who made it to the top office sponsored it.[/quote]
If you actually believe that, which I doubt, I don't understand how you have the skills to get dressed in the morning.
The only people who say anything about what color his daddy was, is the left.posted @ Wednesday, December 18, 2013 - 09:48
[quote][b]dzogchen[/b] - People, this is the face of the tea party. We can't keep doing this and be a great society.[/quote]
We can't keep spending and expanding the welfare state and hope to be a great society. We cannot tax and spend oursleves into prosperity. We cannot be a great society and allow the Federal Government to grow unchecked and encroach on our liberties.posted @ Wednesday, December 18, 2013 - 09:14
Would tighter management have spotted this trend earlier and avoided gaffes like the president’s misstatement about everyone being able to keep their existing health plan?
My guess is yes.
Your guess would be wrong. Obama knew it was a lie when he told it. I know that Progressives try and say that he didn't know any better and he is just in over his head. That is false. We all know that Obama is a very smart person. He is just anti freedom. He would throw his own family under the bus if it meant he could get more power. He is a Statist. It doesn't matter if he is Socialist, Facist, Communist, or, a combo of those and other Statist ideas.
The ACA is not about providing healthcare, it is about power. Stimulus is not about helping the economy, it is about power. Gun control is not about the safety of school children, it is about power.posted @ Wednesday, December 18, 2013 - 09:08
Oh, there is no doubt that some will pay less, for a while. They may even pay lower premiums for an extendend period of time. What will shock them back to reality is when they go for treatment and find that it will take them paying into the 5 figures/year to meet the deductable for their new and improved ACA plan.
None of that matters because the ACA is force and anti-freedom.
Some of you may be OK with being an Obama Drone and lliving for the collective, but, I will take being a free person with rights. Difficult Freedom is worth far more than comfortable servitude.posted @ Wednesday, December 18, 2013 - 08:58
[quote][b]As I See It[/b] - Quite a "what if" reach on this one, farmer GA.[/quote]
I used to think so as well, but, no longer.
It has happend before after all. " A stitch in time saves nine".posted @ Tuesday, December 17, 2013 - 13:04
It is so sad that so many have been fooled into thinking that it is a Democrat vs. Republican thing. It is not. It is a Statist vs. Libertarian thing.
The Libertarian wants the poor taken care of by individuals and private charities. Their goal is to see that those, who really need a helping hand, get a helping hand. and those, who need a swift kick in the butt, get a swift kick in the butt. The Libertarian sees the danger of increasing the power of the State.
The Statist wants power and dominion over others. They use the poor as pawns along with well meaning, but, naive people, to gain power. They are not interested in helping anyone but themselves. They want to keep the poor in a state of poverty. The Statists NEED there to be a percieved difference between Democrats and Republicans. They need the distraction. There is not any real difference between them. A Statist is a Statist.
There are Statist Republicans and Statist Democrats. They love to see the old. "my team is better than your team" fight among the masses. All the while, the Statists, with both D's and R's behind their name, slap each other on the back and think of different ways to remove more freedom, thereby gaining power.
Think about the policies. The Statist Bush expanded the Socialist Medicare program and increased the power of the Department of Education. The Statist Obama kills women and children with drones and has let the "income gap" increase under his watch. Tell me again how the Republicans and Democrats are different?posted @ Tuesday, December 17, 2013 - 12:48
[quote][b]Pfunk[/b] - But if google collects your info and sells it to other companies it's perfectly ok.[/quote]
Actually, yes. You don't have to deal with google, so, you can avoid the sale of your data by not giving it to them. The Constitution is meant to limit the government. We have forgotten that fact.posted @ Tuesday, December 17, 2013 - 12:22
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